Thread: D4 SDV6 Engine Failure

The Prado can’t even be compared to a D3/4,completely different type of vehicle,designed for a different market.

D3/4 needs to be compared to Y62,or LC200/300.

Originally Posted by scarry

The Prado can’t even be compared to a D3/4,completely different type of vehicle,designed for a different market.

D3/4 needs to be compared to Y62,or LC200/300.

Not sure about that either. DIL's Y62 makes my D2 look like a RAV4. It's massive. And the interior is Japanese kitsch. Even with the woodgrain delete. It all works very well, but meh.

Now I'm off to find some soap to wash my mouth out with.....RAV4 indeed...

Originally Posted by Tins

Not sure about that either. DIL's Y62 makes my D2 look like a RAV4. It's massive. And the interior is Japanese kitsch. Even with the woodgrain delete. It all works very well, but meh.

Now I'm off to find some soap to wash my mouth out with.....RAV4 indeed...

But a D2 is like a RAV after you have done 10yrs with a D4,and ten years with D2's.

Well, probably not a RAV,but maybe a Prado,or something in between.

Soap tasted nice?

Originally Posted by ATH

Yes the "Ds" ride is going to be hard to beat but the Cook reckons the Prado wasn't bad on a short test run. Haven't changed much since we had a 120 series moons ago. I still hate the barn door at the back but whispers say a new model is on the way.... but like most things from the car sales lot you take it with a very large pinch of salt.
I'd get a new Defender but really can't see 130 grand + value in it and the space in the back seems constricted when thinking of where all Cooks crap we cart around is going to go, plus the essentials like the Engel for cold beverages.
I'm still teetering on the edge, shall I shan't I?
Plenty of time to make up my tiny mind yet....
AlanH.

These short test runs......that's how I got sucked in to a new Isuzu Mux 5 yrs ago.

50klms or thereabouts and I thought it was wonderful. I even liked listening to the (noisy) engine talking to itself. I thought it was rather like the 3.9 One Ten I had back in 1987...... I was a lot younger then and could put up with such things.

So I bought a new one. After almost 12 months I was absolutely tired/mentally worn out listening to that noisy engine and even worse the terrible Aisin 6 speed auto which shares with the Prado and Musso. Never knew which gear it wanted to be in; slipped the convertor almost incessantly and 6th at 80kph was out of the question. It wanted to be in 5th. My D4 will GLIDE at 80 in 8th!

Sold it after 12 mnths and bought the D4.
182,000 and only brakes, lower control arms, t/belts, and just now the exhaust pipe from the RH turbo. I admit I've replaced the gearchange selector and tailgate actuator but they were pre failure. BTW, that tailgate cable kit from Land Rover Passion is a beauty.

Just about to do the inlet manifolds and oil cooler, but that's only 'cos I'm caravanning on the mainland in June/July/August and its too inconvenient to have those fail then.

Otherwise if staying in Tas I'd love to see what mileage I'd get out of the manifolds.

I drive my eldest son's 2021 Hilux 4WD dual cab quite regularly. These Disco's are definitely worth any so called "pain".

Originally Posted by scarry

But a D2 is like a RAV after you have done 10yrs with a D4,and ten years with D2's.

Well, probably not a RAV,but maybe a Prado,or something in between.

Soap tasted nice?

My D1 and D2 are far better to drive than my son's GU, and the whatever HiLux he had before, and are WAY more capable than any RAV.

Nope on the soap.

Typical naval gazing here from folk trying to feel good about their choices. While both brands have their strengths, the Prado is reliable. Every other week now we are hearing of broken cranks, cracked manifolds, painful belt replacements, etc etc in D4 diesels... so glad I sold my RRS.

Originally Posted by scarry

The Prado can’t even be compared to a D3/4,completely different type of vehicle,designed for a different market.

D3/4 needs to be compared to Y62,or LC200/300.

One of the pokiest ugly generic vehicles ever made, had the misfortune of riding in the middle row seat once - my D1 was more comfortable.

Originally Posted by Arch

Typical naval gazing here from folk trying to feel good about their choices. While both brands have their strengths, the Prado is reliable. Every other week now we are hearing of broken cranks, cracked manifolds, painful belt replacements, etc etc in D4 diesels... so glad I sold my RRS.

I think that would hold if there wasn't experience driving both - alas, there is, including long term use.

Reliability wise, this has been measured - Land Rovers fail roughly twice as often as Toyota. But, as i'm constantly told, Toyotas never fail, so, two times nothing is...?

Most Reliable Cars Australia: The Truth About Car Reliability Rankings

So when EVERYONE takes their rose coloured glasses off, yes, the Toyota is more reliable on average than our landies. But certainly not by the wild margin so often claimed, and used to justify inferior performance in other areas like fuel consumption, comfort (very subjective I know), price, unmodified capability, total unoriginality, etc