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    Finally had a look at the D5

    Finally made my way into the LR dealer and had a very quick look at the D5.
    Did not sit in all of the seats but did like the feel of the drivers seat.
    Compared to my D2 it appeared to be smaller in size in the interior. In the 3rd row there were only a couple of small storage bins. I Like the large storage bins in the D2.
    One of the things I loved about the D2 and to a lesser degree with the D3/D4 was the squared off look which I love but has been lost on the new D5.
    No one has talked about load carrying capacity of the D5 - looking at the spec sheet and subtracting weight from gross vehicle weight your payload is roughly between 750 and 945kg - depending on engine options.
    350kg for tongue weight is impressive. One thing that is noted in tech specs is if you have the Aero wheels and low rolling resistance tyres fitted towing capacity drops to 2500kg and tongue weight is 100kg.
    As far as LR accessories go you can get a decent looking cargo barrier - (Do not know if 3rd row seats are functional with it in), rubber floor and cargo mats, and a loadspace organiser system (3rd row seats not useable with this in place). There are other accessories like bike racks and roof rails etc listed in the product brochure.
    One thing that I think is deceptive is when it just sitting there in its "egress mode" it looks very low and would be useless offroad - but in off road it would look much differently I would imagine.
    I may or may not take one for a test drive someday - but I will not consider buying one until like Tombie has said not until some sort of frontal protection and a winch cradle has been created for it.
    Also am curious as to what will the max Diam tyre will fit it.
    Would I take one offroad if I bought one - You bet - can I afford to buy one - not this year.
    I too is interested in the new Defender if is ever going to be a reality - I do have my doubts. I am currently waiting to see what the new Jeep Dual Cab ute is like - due out next year.

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    My impression is that they help make the aluminium monocoque stiff and strong by enlarging the pillars, which would make the interior smaller, so they make the exterior bigger instead.

    In my experience if you want to go 4wding and touring the dual cab ute arrangement is better than a wagon. If jeep do a decent job of it it could become relatively popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammypluge View Post
    My impression is that they make the aluminium monocoque stiff and strong by enlarging the pillars, which would make the interior smaller, so they make the exterior bigger instead.

    In my experience if you want to go 4wding and touring the dual cab ute arrangement is better than a wagon. If jeep do a decent job of it it could become relatively popular.
    I agree reagrding the new jeep ute. Jeep is currently struggling over here and they've had a massive loss of sales t through their terrible lack of service. Does anyone know if it will have live axles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammypluge View Post
    My impression is that they make the aluminium monocoque stiff and strong by enlarging the pillars, which would make the interior smaller, so they make the exterior bigger instead.

    In my experience if you want to go 4wding and touring the dual cab ute arrangement is better than a wagon. If jeep do a decent job of it it could become relatively popular.
    My mate is just going from his second d3 (this one one of the very last) to a Triton. Just got a Black Widow canopy (very strong thick fibreglass) and it's interesting to see what's possible. A plastic diesel tank that takes up little room is going up against the bulkhead and there is room galore. The Black Widow seals very well and has lighting (he is adding to it) and good locking so it's like a much bigger wagon really. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    I agree reagrding the new jeep ute. Jeep is currently struggling over here and they've had a massive loss of sales t through their terrible lack of service. Does anyone know if it will have live axles?
    My impression is that it will have live axles, and be a variant of the JK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donh54 View Post
    Sadly they don't, but that doesn't stop the dealership from charging them out at that rate!
    We labour hire fitters and stick burners at about the same rate....

    Nothing particularly odd about that hourly servicing rate..

    My currently labour hire on site (just the additional manpower during commissioning) runs to $36k a week...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    I agree reagrding the new jeep ute. Jeep is currently struggling over here and they've had a massive loss of sales t through their terrible lack of service. Does anyone know if it will have live axles?
    Live axles aren’t the critical part in the new Jeep..

    It’s willingness to catch fire would be something to resolve first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    My mate is just going from his second d3 (this one one of the very last) to a Triton. Just got a Black Widow canopy (very strong thick fibreglass) and it's interesting to see what's possible. A plastic diesel tank that takes up little room is going up against the bulkhead and there is room galore. The Black Widow seals very well and has lighting (he is adding to it) and good locking so it's like a much bigger wagon really. Cheers
    Nice looking, good engine if it doesn’t do the turbo or head in (common)..

    Seats are less comfortable than the ones from School days.. think Plank on concrete...

    And don’t load the tray up too much and go offroad - it’s likely to come back curved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Live axles aren’t the critical part in the new Jeep..

    It’s willingness to catch fire would be something to resolve first!
    Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender lol.....yeah but jeep has a golden opportunity to get some market share if they get it right.

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    The first pick would be awesome on a Defender.
    Quote Originally Posted by rammypluge View Post
    I hear on the grapevine that LR want to make the next Defender the best expedition vehicle ever, and are currently debating the best form of engine bay access.Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender
    2011 Discovery 4 TDV6
    2009 DRZ400E Suzuki
    1956 & 1961 P4 Rover (project)
    1976 SS Torana (project - all cash donations or parts accepted)
    2003 WK Holden Statesman
    Departed
    2000 Defender Extreme: Shrek (but only to son)
    84 RR (Gone) 97 Tdi Disco (Gone)
    98 Ducati 900SS Gone & Missed

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