Thread: Won’t be retro...

Originally Posted by Homestar

I don't see an issue with 'LR Bashing' to be honest... While this is a Land Rover forum, I don't see why that precludes us saying exactly what we think about them or any product they have or will make. Just my 2 cents...

Here Here , if anyone has the right to complain about the direction JLR is going or the POS they produce its LandRover enthusiasts themselves.

Now if LRA raffled off a new Defender to AULRO (one only) - how good would that be lads?

Originally Posted by grey_ghost

Now if LRA raffled off a new Defender to AULRO (one only) - how good would that be lads?

Well ok if you insist, hope they have a tilt tray handy as it would be a statutory write off in the first few hours doing stuff my old Td5 Defender took in its stride. And yes folks the Td5 wasn't perfect either.

Originally Posted by Zeros

Mate you’ve changed your post to: “Haha comon try to say something positive about a new LR, you can do it “

OK, all new model Land Rovers are brilliant SUV’s for the urban adventure market. Class leading. Brilliant tech. I wish I could afford a Velar as well as my Defender.

...Previously your post said, “Was someone saying something about LR bashing?” ...I think that was only you.

There’s a big difference between constructive critique / reality checking and ‘bashing’. Disagreeing is not bashing. Discussing disappointment that the new Defender looks to be more of a D4 than a Defender is not bashing.

This thread is about the new Defender, which has always been a heavy duty work truck, not what the D5 should have been, which seems to be where it’s heading.

Endless fanboy promo without any critique is just not real. Countering some of it only feels like bashing in the face of the constant advertising spin.

Based on my personal experience and reading many others, dealer servicing is very hit and miss and as I’ve already said, it’s not ‘free’.

My post is my post, i edited it to be respectful to you, why even bring that up unless you want to provoke?

But since you want to bring up something that doesn't exist, yes you do bash newer LR constantly, if you don't balance it out with credit where credit is due it comes across unjustly negative.

If you can't handle seeing fanboy posts then this forum is probably not the place for you as it's full of Land Rover fanboys

I got on this thread because I noticed it was extremely negative to the new defender at the start with no warrant whatsoever.

If you want to talk rubbish about new Land Rovers back it up with fact or others will do it for you.

I give credit where credit is due whether it be an old series 1 a Range Rover classic a Discovery 1, Discovery 4, Discovery 5 or a Range Rover Vogue.

Please explain how dealer servicing is hit and miss as compared to taking it to an indie, in the context we are talking about the free 5 year scheduled servicing being offered by LR at the moment on the D5.

How you can find that at all negative blows my mind?

Originally Posted by Homestar

I don't see an issue with 'LR Bashing' to be honest... While this is a Land Rover forum, I don't see why that precludes us saying exactly what we think about them or any product they have or will make. Just my 2 cents...

There is a difference between saying what we think and never say anything positive about Land Rovers on a Land Rover forum.
I personally have no problem with people stating realistic issues with Land Rovers, however sweeping comments like the new discovery has gone soft and anyone that buys one must be from Toorak or Double Bay is just disrespectful to other members and with no facts to back it up is pretty unfair to the brand we all apparently love.

Put it another way if there was someone on a yota forum continually ONLY ever saying how unreliable the new 200 series is and how it has gone soft with it's new rounded shape and is not possibly a real four-wheel drive and not giving credit where credit is due, they would be outed pretty quickly.

So when someone does something like this towards a newer Land Rover if it's not backed up with facts, call it fanboying all you like, but I'm going to stick up for them every day of the week.

The new defender is the same, comments like it's going to be a weaker version of the Discovery 4 and its in no way is going to be utilitarian or rugged are not backed up by facts seen to date imo.

And continually making derogatory comments about someone that stands up for Land Rover on a Land Rover forum is also Land Rover bashing FYI.

Originally Posted by grey_ghost

Now if LRA raffled off a new Defender to AULRO (one only) - how good would that be lads?

I vote we put it to the mods to send an email to Land Rover

Originally Posted by blackrangie

There is a difference between saying what we think and never say anything positive about Land Rovers on a Land Rover forum.
I personally have no problem with people stating realistic issues with Land Rovers, however sweeping comments like the new discovery has gone soft and anyone that buys one must be from Toorak or Double Bay his just disrespectful 2 other members and with no facts to back it up is pretty unfair to the brand we all apparently love.

Put it another way if there was someone on a yota forum continually ONLY ever saying how unreliable the new 200 series is and how it has gone soft with it's new rounded shape and is not possibly a real four-wheel drive and not giving credit where credit is due, there would be outed pretty quickly.

So when someone does so something like this towards a newer Land Rover if it's not backed up with facts, call it fanboying all you like, but I'm going to stick up for them every day of the week.

The new defender is the same, comments like it's going to be a weaker version of the Discovery 4 and its in no way is going to be utilitarian or rugged are not backed up by facts seen to date imo.

And continually making derogatory comments about someone that stands up for Land Rover on a Land Rover forum is also Land Rover bashing FYI.

I've never had a go at anyone who owns a modern Land Rover - I'd appreciate it if you think I have to point out where I have done this?

I've said I think the current line up all look the same and that I don't like any of them as they stand, beyond that back up your comments with some facts please and stop having a go at people in the same way you say it happens to you.

Pot, kettle, black...

Originally Posted by blackrangie

I vote we put it to the mods to send an email to Land Rover

Fat chance JLR would even read an email sent from this forum - without going into detail JLR's association with AULRO has been negative in any occasion they do happen to interact and IMO are no friends of this place. Nuff said on this.