That middle pics interesting,,,
did they have to cut the chasis?
and was that "angle" rewelded across the new bit?
I found these pics a while back. I like the look of these recovery points.
I sent an email to the guy who posted the pics. He said they were custom made for his Discovery by ARB in Perth. Can get more made.

That middle pics interesting,,,
did they have to cut the chasis?
and was that "angle" rewelded across the new bit?
"How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"
'93 V8 Rossi
'97 to '07. sold.
'01 V8 D2
'06 to 10. written off.
'03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
'10 to '21
'16.5 RRS SDV8
'21 to Infinity and Beyond!
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Hi Glen, i have found the TJM bar very good, the mountings appear strong enough, and it is winch compatible. I think it is six of one half a dozen of the other when it comes to these two brands both are good quality well know brands. Go with the one that you like the look of best, i dont think it really matters. If the bar wasnt on the car when i bought it i probably would have gone the ARB, but for no particular reasonOriginally posted by seqfisho
Hey Matt,
How have you found the TJM bar?
still trying to decide between ARB or TJM
mine is air bag is yours?
how strong do the mountings look?
Regards Glen.
adm333- any idea how much those recovery points would cost, and how easy they are to fit? Matt
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Thanks Matt, I'm leaning towards the TJM simply because it is winch compatible but not one or the other like ARB.
Those are exactly like the outback products item in 4wd monthly, they seem to be a perfect fit for the job, but I think they are on a D2 by the looks of it :?:
Glen.
Look in the common threads forum - the recovery thread - the link to the "Outback Ideas Recovery Points" thread. Yes he is doing a wider range of stuff now, too.Originally posted by seqfisho
Hey Vlad,
I did [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img] but hardly anyone replied, so I thought I'd strike while the iron was hot [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
BTW has anyone seen the stuff produced by outback products, they are making stuff(10,000lb rated points) for the new playdo and others, they may be able to produce something to suit, that is if they dont already. I only just saw them in the new products section of this months 4wd Monthly
Glen.
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
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1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
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1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
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						Guys,
The TJM instructions (I fitted my bar myself) simply said to straighten the LR point. This did not work for me: 1) it was Bloody difficult to do (took a LOT of hammering) and 2) the loop was up behind the skirt of the Bull Bar, meaning any strap/winch cable would be prone to damage.
So, I had a pair of new ones made. I have some pictures that compare new and old, but I'm new to this forum and can't find how to upload them.
I was not 100% with them (still seems likely that damage could occur to the skirt of the Bull Bar), so I only fitted one and will try a re-design one day.
Dave
JATE Rings are good i understand.
I have a mag with New Design in them, I'll scan it and Post the pic.
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						Thanks for the thougth, but my understanding it that JATE rings are NOT rated sufficiently to handle recovery loads.Originally posted by sclarke
JATE Rings are good i understand.
I have a mag with New Design in them, I'll scan it and Post the pic.
Also, mounting them on a solid frame member puts them well under the vehicle (behind crush cans etc.) making them difficult to access and any attached strap/winch cable would foul the Bull Bar skirt.
Dave
OK,, I'll be the bunny---
If your LR has a winch mounted in a bullbar,,
if that winch is rated to 9000lbs,,
if said bar is from a reputable manufacturer,,
why not use the cable as the recovery point :?:
the bar must be mounted in such a way as to withstand 9000lbs of weight/force. True--yes?no?
How many times does a strap multiply the recovery force?
on a totally different ( but related ) topic,,
you southern gentlemen and ladies may not be aware but two guys died on Fraser the other day,,
one was killed by a ripped off tow point.
the other,, somehow managed to run himself over--
on another totally different ( but related ) topic,,
The Rainbow Beach Pub now has a very nice board up on the wall keeping tally of wrecked cars.
current tally for 2005 is 5
2000 was a bad year for LR (and 4wds generally) , out of FIFTY FOUR vehicles washed out, towed out and rolled over by the sea LR contributed 10.
T.I.S.M.
get the idea ????
"How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"
'93 V8 Rossi
'97 to '07. sold.
'01 V8 D2
'06 to 10. written off.
'03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
'10 to '21
'16.5 RRS SDV8
'21 to Infinity and Beyond!
1988 Isuzu Bus. V10 15L NA Diesel
Home is where you park it..
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Thanks for the thougth, but my understanding it that JATE rings are NOT rated sufficiently to handle recovery loads.Originally posted by davedisco+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(davedisco)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-sclarke
JATE Rings are good i understand.
I have a mag with New Design in them, I'll scan it and Post the pic.
Also, mounting them on a solid frame member puts them well under the vehicle (behind crush cans etc.) making them difficult to access and any attached strap/winch cable would foul the Bull Bar skirt.
Dave[/b][/quote]
Jate Rings were designed to Airlift Military Land Rovers. They are also much easier to fit cause they replace the transit rings which bolts through a reinforced part on the chassis .. available on any coil sprung LR. If being rated is a concern do yourself a favour and have a look at a 4.2 Ton D-Shackle and compare that to a Jate Ring (see below). Realistically the D-Shackle will only give way under massive loads ... 15T plus. My Jate Rings looks stronger than the D-Shackle so I'm confident they will do the job.
Another benefit if two jate rings are fitted, is that you can use a bridle to spread the load in the front. The bridle also eliminates the problem of access by fitting and attaching to the bullbar before a heavy section is entered.

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