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Thread: Spot or Flood light bar up under roof rack? NSW roof light legality?

  1. #111
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    That piece of crap publication is so unreliable, misinformed etc and has been formally called out by a few heavy hitters in the industry now.

    I'd suggest talking with local Transport Authority and get it in writing if you're concerned...

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    They're obviously not too interested in policing this. Just about every second or third 4WD you see on the roads up here has an LED bar mounted in at least one of the indicated positions - and I would assume that Kalgoorlie is no different to the rest of the state.

    While I haven't seen it around for a while now, there used to be a green Falcon ute getting around town with a row of rather large forward facing spotlights across the roof. It belonged to one of the local Police Sergeants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_An_Abba_Fan View Post
    Although it is hear say, and not admissable in court.....

    Any rule or regulation is interpretation. You can argue roadside noise testing too, the police that have a noise meter and do a noise check on your car are not doing it according to the regulations, therefore their "test" is not correct you can't be issued a defect, doesn't stop them though.


    Actually they can. It's in the opinion of the officer Spot or Flood light bar up under roof rack? NSW roof light legality?

    I've been in a vehicle that was defected for no front springs.
    This becomes amusing when you are in a Chrysler By Chrysler Coupe.

    It was resolved quickly at the Station as the Sargent was more aware of older vehicles... The younger officer was a lot younger and was of the opinion that it wasn't roadworthy due to missing springs.

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    Not really enforced in NSW, same as BMkal says, every 2nd 4wd has one around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Actually they can. It's in the opinion of the officer Spot or Flood light bar up under roof rack? NSW roof light legality?

    I've been in a vehicle that was defected for no front springs.
    This becomes amusing when you are in a Chrysler By Chrysler Coupe.

    It was resolved quickly at the Station as the Sargent was more aware of older vehicles... The younger officer was a lot younger and was of the opinion that it wasn't roadworthy due to missing springs.
    That was my point, your car may be legal and roadworthy, if, in the opinion of the police officer it is not, then they will defect you.

    That last line where it says that permanently forward facing LED light bars used as work lights are not permitted is bull****. They are permitted. As long as the bar is covered when on the road, has a separate switch and cannot be activated with high beam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2dave View Post
    There has often been a lot of discussion about light bar legality.
    It is pretty much now common knowlage that they have now been deemed legal.
    Under the old law of driving lights having to be mounted in pairs, did effectivly make them illegal.

    The laws have since been changed and this also applies to all additional lights.
    A maximum of four, but they no longer have to be in pairs.

    Now the topic of light bars being mounted on the roof still brings up debate.
    I have found the answer.
    It is legal to mount a light bar on the roof in all states except NSW and WA.

    My source for this information comes from here

    UNSEALED 4X4 ISSUE 025

    Have a scroll through. There is a story on lighting near the end.
    I wouldn't believe much that comes from this publication, there is currently a bit of hoo har on faceache about their testing of lights etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    I wouldn't believe much that comes from this publication, there is currently a bit of hoo har on faceache about their testing of lights etc...


    Amongst several other things they've been smaller out for in the past.

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    Like most things, it's legal until you get caught. My D1 has a reverse light on the spare wheel carrier, switchable from the drivers seat. Apparently that's illegal, but it's been there for years without comment. I imagine it might cause problems if I flash it at the car behind because he's blinding me, especially if it's a police car..... As Mick said, common sense should prevail, but in my experience the police know no more about the laws they are enforcing than I do. One day light bars will be in the memo, and everyone will get booked. I don't say that to be insulting, but when I have had four different people ( RMS officer, NSW Highway Patrol, VicPol TOG and RMS again ) give four different interpretations of counting time in my Work Diary, and all four of them give me an Infringement I simply don't believe they know. When I went to court over the Victorian one I discovered that the Magistrate didn't know either.
    When you see people driving around with red filters on their front parkers unchallenged, I say put your lights wherever you want. And talk nicely and politely to the policemen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Queensland doesn't have annual inspections, you just get a notice and pay the bill.

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    I was pulled over by a road patrol for a random vehicle inspection last month and part of the chat I had with the Inspector was that by accepting and paying the rego renewal, you are (legally) agreeing that the vehicle is roadworthy. So the onus is on the registered operator to ensure the vehicle complies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop058 View Post
    I was pulled over by a road patrol for a random vehicle inspection last month and part of the chat I had with the Inspector was that by accepting and paying the rego renewal, you are (legally) agreeing that the vehicle is roadworthy. So the onus is on the registered operator to ensure the vehicle complies.
    Same thing with your licence. You are entering into a binding contract that you will obey the various laws. Which is why it is very difficult to fight most infringements, as in a sense you are in breach of contract with the authorities. The main difference with most contracts is that they are in a position to vary the terms, and you are not.
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