I think I will stick with Rover Cars I think! I am fairly sure I am correct, then again I am not sure this many people can be wrong!
Correct.... The TD4 is the same lump that's fitted to the BMW 320 diesel and has nothing to do with the TD5.Originally posted by garrycol
L series diesel is a single OHC (2 valve head) Direct Injection electronic diesel of 1994 cc. It is from the Rover family of engines and was fitted to the Di and XEDi in 98/99 and maybe early 00.
The TD4 is a double OHC engine (4 valve head) Commonrail direct injection and is 1951cc. The TD4 is a BMW engine that owes nothing to Rover.
All TD4s have the the BMW engine and gearbox fitted.
The TD4 is related to the TD6 (BMW) but the TD5 is a close relative to the L series and not the BMW engines.
Gazzz
The original 'L' series diesel is IIRC a Perkins design.
Mark
I think I will stick with Rover Cars I think! I am fairly sure I am correct, then again I am not sure this many people can be wrong!
Its good to see someone who knows when to quit!! :roll:Originally posted by mr_b_r_johnstone
I think I will stick with Rover Cars I think! I am fairly sure I am correct, then again I am not sure this many people can be wrong!
BMW was stuck with the L series when it took over Landrover. As soon as it could BMW replaced the L series with the TD4 - hence the two vastly different engines (in my view the TD4 is not necessarily better than the L series - just different) with the only common bit really being 4 cylinders and being just under 2 litres.
Gazzz
REMLR 243
2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
1977 FC 101
1976 Jaguar XJ12C
1973 Haflinger AP700
1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
1957 Series 1 88"
1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon
It just does not make sense that is all. BMW purchased the entire Rover Group in 1994, and Rover cars continued with the L Series up until April this year when they went belly-up. Why would they use two different engines and why would they be the exact same capacity - 1951cc.
They are not the same capacity.Originally posted by mr_b_r_johnstone
Why would they use two different engines and why would they be the exact same capacity - 1951cc.
L series - 1994cc, Bore 84.5mm, Stroke 88.9mm, single OHC, 2 valve head, external rubber timing belt, 19.5:1 compression ratio, power about 72 kw
TD4 - 1951cc, Bore 84mm, Stroke 88mm, double OHC, 4 valve head, internal simplex timing chain, 18:1 compression ratio, power about 84 kw
They are clearly different engines
The sole similiarity between them is that they are diesel, 4 cylinder, and turbo intercooled.
Thats it - no more [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]
Gazz
REMLR 243
2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
1977 FC 101
1976 Jaguar XJ12C
1973 Haflinger AP700
1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
1957 Series 1 88"
1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon
I just rung up an old fella who was an engineer at Rover.
YOU are completly CORRECT
I AM completely WRONG.
I had the details mixed up.
I SURRENDER - PEACE!
Damn, it was just getting exciting [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] .
You mentioned that you came from Rover car circles, but you're now here - you must have an interest in Land Rovers too. You are more than welcome to stay :wink: .
Scott
Well thanks for your permission to stay!
Anyhow how about we work what years both the diesels became avaliable?
What....... and answer the original question :?: :?: :?:Originally posted by mr_b_r_johnstone
Well thanks for your permission to stay!
Anyhow how about we work what years both the diesels became avaliable?
Now there's an idea [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif[/img]
I think timM has already gone and bought a different car whilst everyone else was bickering over engine specs.
You get that [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
2011 Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography
2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
2004 Freelander TD4 SE
1997 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
1994 Range Rover Vogue
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no, I am still waiting for the answer,,,, i think it is 'YES'???? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
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