SOS and lots of swear words!

**p38arover** · 6th November 2006, 09:32 AM

Not drastic but still bloody expensive.

Ron

**Frenchie** · 6th November 2006, 11:07 AM

You can get PBC101270 on Ebay UK for 40 pounds:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Land-Rover-Dis...QQcmdZViewItem

DiscoDave · 6th November 2006, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Frenchie

You can get PBC101270 on Ebay UK for 40 pounds:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Land-Rover-Dis...QQcmdZViewItem

Note it says "Condition: Used".

**rick130** · 7th November 2006, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Frenchie

Hmmm, so is then something that should be replaced at regular intervals? If so then how often? Not something you would want to happen in the middle of nowhere.

I doubt it. With George's history of headgasket leaks, etc, I'm guessing the coolant concentration levels have been thrown out to buggery, and also, OAT is known for not coping too well with air in the system compared to conventional silicate based coolants.

JamesH · 7th November 2006, 11:14 AM

Sorry to hear the news George. 2006 has been a bad Landy year for me too. But as everybody said when my rocker arm went on a country run and I was faced with a $1000 bill - it could have been worse and it could have been in the outback (the RAC guy said I'd done a piston!). Which is true but I always replied it is easy to see how it could have been $1000 better as well!

Commiserations.

**George130** · 7th November 2006, 06:53 PM

For those of you watching this thread. You can't buy just the oil cooler new! So to buy it will cost in Australia $1045 plus the gasket!
Thanks for the E-bay link, I'm chasing that up now.
The one from mine is not salvageable. so the housing, filters and damaged cooler are with a machinist I know and we are designing an external alternative. The plus is it will increase oil capacity but will also mean more pipes in the engine bay. Once we have sorted out this mod I will be happy to provide details for those interested in the solution. This will also provide a larger warmer/cooler as it also warms the oil in cold climates so should help with protecting the engine long term.

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 7th November 2006, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by George130

For those of you watching this thread.

Thats 804 at last count Ed,,,

Lots of people thinking good thoughts---

Blue Rover · 10th August 2007, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

Originally Posted by George130

For those of you watching this thread.

Thats 804 at last count Ed,,,

Lots of people thinking good thoughts---

Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is the right way to respond to this thread or not, I am new to this game.

I have an 03 TD5 defender with 150k on the clock and I seem to have the same problem as George. Oil in the coolant causing the coolant tank to overflow. Only problem is that this is the second time it has happened. First time it was allegedly the oil cooler which was replaced and the cooling system flushed out (at not insignificant expense) Then 2500 km later when 2400 km away from home it happened again. The result was more expense shipping the vehicle home and I haven't had the inclination to pull anything apart yet because I wasn't sure where to start looking. I would be interested in hearing more about the "improved" cooler that was being contemplated.

I was also looking at the other string about the life expectancy of the TD5 motor. I have owned my defender from new and for the first 140k it was perfect, certainly no oil leaks or any of the other problems raised. The driving covered Cape York, NT, Kimberley, Canning Stock Route, Gunbarrel Hwy etc. The Landy took it all in its stride until the axle casing broke on our way back home on the Ann Beadell Hwy. (Don't ever ask what a complete axle is worth from a land rover dealer unless you are sitting down) So after fitting a second hand axle we continued our drive home. I would also be interested to know if anyone else has heard of an axle casing snapping right next to the diff housing. Needless to say land rover did not consider it their problem. Motor wise everthing was fine until these oil leaks occurred. So if anyone has any recommendations on the easiest way to fix the problem I'm all ears.

**MacMan** · 10th August 2007, 08:25 AM

Needless to say land rover did not consider it their problem.

Unless there were obvious signs of abuse and other collateral damage to indicate lots of airborne travel and harsh landings, it would seem very much their problem...

**George130** · 10th August 2007, 09:36 AM

I ended up having my internal cooler made for me as I couldn't get one without spending $1100 at the time. Instead of being like a miniature column heater it is a box sized to fit in the space. This should be less restrictive for flow and also has greater capacity to standard. It was made from aluminum and pressure tested to 150psi. Sorry I didn't get pictures.

With the flushing I found it took ages to get the muck out and had to be done over a week. I think I flushed it 4 times in the end to clear it all out. Your problem could be residual oil in the system. The oil cooler when it leaks will only leak once everything has warmed up. They also fail due to corrosion damage so if it was badly damaged I would be worried about the head also.
I didn't go with the external set up in the end. We did work out how to do it.
Remove the oil cooler assembly and then the oil cooler. You then need to reverse the banjo bolts so you can have joiners made to screw onto the on the outside of the housing. Biggest issue there is the space. After that all you have to do is mount the external cooler and run oil lines between the 2. If you wanted you can also fit an external oil filter in the system to.

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