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Thread: Isuzu MSA Gearbox to LT230

  1. #341
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    Quote Originally Posted by 123rover50 View Post
    When I got the adaptor for the MSA to Chev ,I gave Dellows the box dimensions and he said it was SAE no 3. He already had a pattern.

    Didiman
    If you count the bolts, the Isuzu pattern isn't SAE #3. It is close in diameter, but the SAE pattern has bolts equi-spaced around. The Isuzu pattern has different bolt spacing.

    Isuzu 4BD1 Bell-housings..

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    Thanks. That was an interesting read. Nothing is new eh.
    Keith

    Actually looking back through my notes he said pick which diameter.
    409.3
    404.94 mine
    416.0 or
    397.5
    Last edited by 123rover50; 7th August 2012 at 07:08 PM. Reason: more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    If you count the bolts, the Isuzu pattern isn't SAE #3. It is close in diameter, but the SAE pattern has bolts equi-spaced around. The Isuzu pattern has different bolt spacing.

    Isuzu 4BD1 Bell-housings..
    Yes, I found that out too That put an end to my Allison AT540 project ideas...

    JC
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    I just happen to have a truck with a 4BD1T and an Allison AT 545 sitting in my shed, it was converted by Detroit diesel back in 1987 and is still going strong.

    They used an adapter for the bellhousing and bolted the flexplate to the manual flywheel. No pics for a while though as I'm stuck at work.

    Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Nice work Sheldon... Time to leave Matlab behind and move to Python though
    Purpose?? Will it make my Isuzu more reliable??

  6. #346
    SheldonA Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy110 View Post
    Any updates???

    Yes, kind of.... details to follow...

  7. #347
    SheldonA Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by ausdet View Post
    Hi Sheldon,

    Are you still making your MSA Gearbox to LT230 adapters? If so do you have any?
    Still making = Yes. Do I have any right now = no.

  8. #348
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    Quote Originally Posted by c.h.i.e.f View Post
    Thanks guys...Sheldon has been hard to get in touch with lately that's all...I have got some alloy lined up and a hydro cutter close by I was contemplating making my own adaptor ring but thats if I cannot get one off Sheldon...i am unsure of the pattern on the mxa but I assume it would be the same as you just mentioned..with the adaptor ring how thick would it approximately be ? Does it require a spacer on the crank to be made for the spigot ?
    Once again sorry about the questions but I'm trying to get things underway on driveline as the motor is almost sorted...
    The Ring adds 25mm thickness, bringing the landrover housing (80mm) out to the same thickness as the Truck housing (105mm) so no spacer required on the crank.

  9. #349
    SheldonA Guest
    Ok here’s the deal, two options in regards to the housings;

    1. Continue with weldments

    Price will go up to take into account some process related costs I didn’t factor in.

    2. Move to Aluminuim casting

    I can maintain the current price, however would need at least 20 people to commit before I outlay to get this going – although these people who committed would get a discount.

    And to show my appreciation to those that have joined in on funding the development of this conversion – those that have purchased a steel weldment version would be able to swap out to the Aluminium Housing for free if they so desired (in exchange for the return of their current housing).


    In regards to the Shift Kit, once again, two options;

    1. Stick with the current linkage kit – prices to go up as per same reasons as above.

    2. Move to the replacement top cover plate that utilises the LT85 selector (Defender/County only so far)

    I would need at least 20 people to commit to this before I develop this any further. For anyone that commits I will keep the price no more than what the current shift kit cost and if it actually works out cheaper I will pass that saving on.

    Once developed, I would then offer the same swap out to those that already have a kit – although most likely at a fee.

    As it isn’t developed far enough yet, I cannot confirm any prices.


    Of course you could always rig up your own shift kit and I just supply housing/shaft.

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    Hi Sheldon,

    Put me down for option 2 housing and option 2 shift kit if you can get the numbers otherwise I would be happy with the current options

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