Embarrassment

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Originally Posted by Stuuu

Jason unfortunately there is just not ONE 'thing' that has caused where things are at in your house. That also means there is not just ONE 'thing' that you can do to cahnge it. It took years to get to this stage and so it ain't gunna be fixed overnight either.

Raed what Aus said above - he's right on the mark with that.




I spent $000's learning to fly. Flew single engine planes for a bit over 7 years and haven't done it since.

Then spent a number of years looking after radio broadcasting and satellite gear and then got into looking after computers in a number of ways.

And now I sell stuff. I enjoyed what I did but that was in the past - its not what I am doing today or in the future, which is the important stuff.

Where is all the talk about camping and Fender doors for the Series??? Onward and upward mate.

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Would be happy to go away somewhere ,would be even better if i could find some doors off a fender . . . .


Karen was out at charlstown today & ran into the lady i mentioned ages ago who was a very close friend to Karen & the ONLY person outside Karen that I trust with my life even still today..Fred said Karen was real happy to run into her ...Funny thing is i was actualy thinking of her lastnight cause of the friendship they had & i was going to text her to tell her a little about what has happend & ask if she mite be able to spare a little time to come & chat with KAren & myself to but after they have chated. . .. . .

Do use recon i should text her she seem to make Karen happy today & Karen was happy when she was telling me....??????

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Originally Posted by Gillie

Lifeline Australia 13 11 14 - Suicide Prevention, Crisis Support & Mental Health services

Anyone can call Lifeline. The 13 11 14 service offers a counselling service that respects everyone’s right to be heard, understood and cared for. We also provide information about other support services that are available in communities around Australia.


Might be a good start mate.

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Gillie, you say "WE also provide......" Do you work at Lifeline????:)

Banjo, you keep tiptoeing around the problem and seem to not to want to tackle the central issue, even though you appear to recognise it. If YOU WANT TO yes, contact this lady, if you think it helps, YOU, have to make the descision on this, also as Gillie suggested IF YOU WANT TO seek professional help and Lifeline seems a good place to start, they will steer you in the right direction.:) But you have to stop skirting the issue and make DIFFICULT AND POSITIVE descisions now, or if things continue as they are, descisions will be made for you, that you may not like by other people!!!;)

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Originally Posted by banjo

Do use recon i should text her she seem to make Karen happy today & Karen was happy when she was telling me....??????

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I am not you but if it were me I would ask Karen and find out if she is happy about it.

For the past 15 plus years i have delt with cuicidal depression its hasn't been any trouble as i push it to the back of my mind & it only pops up every so often years apart..With the experiance i have had with help lines i am very reluctant to use them now ...All have been no help & even had a couple of people laugh at me & i have hung up & vowed to never use one again .......

Every 4 or so years it pops its head up & i again push it to the back of my head .....

As for seeing a shrink for my agrerophobia its never helped before & i seriously doubt it will ...

I watched a doco on fox tel when we had it from the UK all about agerophobic people some shrink thought he new all the answers & got them out & even got them on a plane BUT it didn't help them in anyway what so ever after he had done all his theropy crap nothing worked & i do know that one of the people in the doco did comite cuicide after it all because of this shrink.....

There realy isn't any answers to it or cure IT is posable to control it to some degree ....BUT it will always pop its ugly head up now & again & then we have some trouble like a bad day ,I AM DETERMIND TO KEEP MY BAD DAY NO MORE THAN A WEEK AT MOST..After that i will be kicking myself in the head over it.. Same as the depression & the cuicide crap it will always be there i just push it to the back...
ITS the expectations people put on agerophobic people that eventualy put them back to the begining of it all ..I picked Aus up & gave him a lift home because i never told anyone except Karen that i was going to do it & when Aus got in he said to me are you going to be ok to drive me home I said don't know but we will soon find out THEN Aus said at any time you want to turn around just chuck me out & i will walk the rest of the way..THAT HELPED but i was also determend to do it all the way to Aus's house wether i got nervous or not.I would of also been to embarrest to say na i gotta turn around .As it turned out i was ok & i even stoped for a chat i didn't just leave & i went around the back so Aus could show me his wifes bird feeder he told me about ages ago..

PEOPLE & mainly my family & so called friends have put heaps of expectations on me so i haven't been able to make any headway because i end up back at the start of it..YOU guys don't do that so i ahve been able to do some stuff with out knowing as such because use don't expect it but when i do do something its good for all of us ......& thats what makes me able to do stuff KAren has never expected me to do stuff i & she knows i cant do but if i do the things i can its great ...I GOT LAZY ...No one knows that more than me ...Thats how i let Karen down over the last 12 months by being lazy....

So i do know where i went wrong ..

Fred was just telling me that Gail took Karen mobile number & would like to call in so i don't have to text her she is going to be in touch & we can meet again & chat.. So that would be good ..

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Originally Posted by Ausfree

Gillie, you say "WE also provide......" Do you work at Lifeline????:)

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No I don't, That was a copy and paste from their website as I thought it would give a bit more info into how they could help. Nothing about about Landrover doors though, but I guess that is why we have AULRO. :D

I will be off to mums in the next couple of weeks guys i am sure of that thats about all i'm sure of anymore . . . . . .

I will pickup a fridge & swag in that time so i have something to sleep in & to keep stuff in the fridge just a car one looking at some on ebay they are 50 or 55 ltrs...

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Originally Posted by banjo

For the past 15 plus years i have delt with cuicidal depression its hasn't been any trouble as i push it to the back of my mind & it only pops up every so often years apart..With the experiance i have had with help lines i am very reluctant to use them now ...All have been no help & even had a couple of people laugh at me & i have hung up & vowed to never use one again .......

Every 4 or so years it pops its head up & i again push it to the back of my head .....

As for seeing a shrink for my agrerophobia its never helped before & i seriously doubt it will ...

I watched a doco on fox tel when we had it from the UK all about agerophobic people some shrink thought he new all the answers & got them out & even got them on a plane BUT it didn't help them in anyway what so ever after he had done all his theropy crap nothing worked & i do know that one of the people in the doco did comite cuicide after it all because of this shrink.....

There realy isn't any answers to it or cure IT is posable to control it to some degree ....BUT it will always pop its ugly head up now & again & then we have some trouble like a bad day ,I AM DETERMIND TO KEEP MY BAD DAY NO MORE THAN A WEEK AT MOST..After that i will be kicking myself in the head over it.. Same as the depression & the cuicide crap it will always be there i just push it to the back...
ITS the expectations people put on agerophobic people that eventualy put them back to the begining of it all ..I picked Aus up & gave him a lift home because i never told anyone except Karen that i was going to do it & when Aus got in he said to me are you going to be ok to drive me home I said don't know but we will soon find out THEN Aus said at any time you want to turn around just chuck me out & i will walk the rest of the way..THAT HELPED but i was also determend to do it all the way to Aus's house wether i got nervous or not.I would of also been to embarrest to say na i gotta turn around .As it turned out i was ok & i even stoped for a chat i didn't just leave & i went around the back so Aus could show me his wifes bird feeder he told me about ages ago..

PEOPLE & mainly my family & so called friends have put heaps of expectations on me so i haven't been able to make any headway because i end up back at the start of it..YOU guys don't do that so i ahve been able to do some stuff with out knowing as such because use don't expect it but when i do do something its good for all of us ......& thats what makes me able to do stuff KAren has never expected me to do stuff i & she knows i cant do but if i do the things i can its great ...I GOT LAZY ...No one knows that more than me ...Thats how i let Karen down over the last 12 months by being lazy....

So i do know where i went wrong ..

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Banjo, this ain't easy for us either, your pain is our pain. It's a delicate balancing act for us, we push and encourage you because we care. Most of us have not met you, so we are not sure how hard we can push without making matters worse. To date you have risen to and beaten every challenge, even if it has taken a bit of time sometimes. We do have expectations, but if you can't reach them we will still care, we'll just help you up, point you in the right direction and start again. WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON YOU MATE, we're Aussies, your our mate, so it doesn't happen that way. agrerophobia (C&P your spelling :p) may not be curable, but it is managable. You may or may not be able to manage the condition in full or even partially, (personally I think you can, and have proven so) but you will still remain our mate. We will accept you as such, warts and all. Do you hear what I'm saying Jason, Karen and the kids aren't the only ones who care and love (in the blokiest of ways ;)) you, You have a lot of good mates and a bloody big fan club out here. :BigThumb:
I'll phone you through the week mate, stay safe. :)

The words of a true champion V8ian! Jason, he's right. We're all with you and will do anything within our powers to help even if you don't hear from us from time to time. Mate, I'd love to call in next time I'm up that way just to meet you and help in any way I can. I'll drop you a line from here beforehand and you can decide if you want me to call in.
cheers Gerald