Thread: Embarrassment

haha - I saw a video of someone doing that with WD40

Breaking the bead was easy enough but just couldn't lever the rim out from the tyre. Or tyre off the rim. Must be my wheezily little office arms
I lubed it up too but just couldn't get it off. The tyre was a 205R16 so nothing particularly truck like.
I know it should only take 10 mins. I gave up after bonking my head and 2 hours of buggerising around
Will give it another go tomorrow (Might wear my bike helmet) Pity your 1000km away - you could show me

If you have both sides off the bead - try to put the opposite side to where you are using the tyre irons down inside the centre of the wheel - that will give you a bit more 'gap' to work with.

Sleepy, make sure the beads (both sides) are in the well of the rim before levering it off. The tyre will only come off one side of the rim, usually the outside; unless the rims have been reversed on the centres. Do the tyres have tubes?

Yeah thanks drifter - I did that too.

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This was what I was trying to do. He makes it look too easy. Got to 2.07 and just couldn't get the tyre to collapse on itself like he does. Could only get a few inches of bead over - then ouch

Originally Posted by V8Ian

The tyre will only come off one side of the rim, usually the outside;

ahhhhhhhh,

<<insert sound of penny dropping>>

Edit: Just checked again - I was trying to get it off the outside bugger

It is a tubeless D1 steel rim. (Not reversed)

Paul, once both beads are broken, lay the wheel on the ground, outside up (see my previous post). Prop the lower bead up with a piece of wood ,or anything handy, so the bead is level with the well. Push the upper bead into the well with your foot/feet/toes, at the same position, lets call that 6 o'clock; insert two levers side by side at 12 o'clock, where the valve just happens to be. Only the tips of the levers need to be in the tyre, and if there is a tube be careful you don't pinch it with the lever. When you have the levers pulled back across the rim, remove one lever. You may have to release some pressure from the lever to do this. Reinsert the lever you removed, about 2-3" from the lever still in the tyre, repeat until the bead is loose. It gets easier with each bite. Once the first bead is completely removed, take out the tube (if applicable) then stand the tyre and rim vertically with the remaining bead in the well of the rim. Insert a lever between the top of the rim and tyre and pull the lever to horizontal; this is usually easiest if you're standing on the side that you are removing the tyre from. You may need to put your foot against the top of the rim as you pull the lever. When you have the lever horizontal, bash the bead with a rubber mallet, alternating each side of the lever.

Hope this is some help to you, it's my first time cyber tyre changing. Let me know if it works for you, then we'll go on to lesson #2 .....putting the beggars back on.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Paul, once both beads are broken, lay the wheel on the ground, outside up (see my previous post). Prop the lower bead up with a piece of wood ,or anything handy, so the bead is level with the well. Push the upper bead into the well with your foot/feet/toes, at the same position, lets call that 6 o'clock; insert two levers side by side at 12 o'clock, where the valve just happens to be. Only the tips of the levers need to be in the tyre, and if there is a tube be careful you don't pinch it with the lever. When you have the levers pulled back across the rim, remove one lever. You may have to release some pressure from the lever to do this. Reinsert the lever you removed, about 2-3" from the lever still in the tyre, repeat until the bead is loose. It gets easier with each bite. Once the first bead is completely removed, take out the tube (if applicable) then stand the tyre and rim vertically with the remaining bead in the well of the rim. Insert a lever between the top of the rim and tyre and pull the lever to horizontal; this is usually easiest if you're standing on the side that you are removing the tyre from. You may need to put your foot against the top of the rim as you pull the lever. When you have the lever horizontal, bash the bead with a rubber mallet, alternating each side of the lever.

Hope this is some help to you, it's my first time cyber tyre changing. Let me know if it works for you, then we'll go on to lesson #2 .....putting the beggars back on.

Sorry about hijacking your thread Jason. My turn to be embarrassed (If only my issues were so simple, says banjo)

Thanks Ian, I followed this to the red bit. Just couldn't get that lever back further than vertical and a bit. No way was it moving back any further with my puny arms The tyre is a crappy bald thing and is old and hard so perhaps that is my problem. I figure I can do a bush repair if I can get it this far - even if I carry a tube. On my Bourke trip, I was intending to carry 5 wheels and a 6th tyre (to save weight) but I think I'll carry the 6th wheel and tyre (and a couple of tubes!)

Oh, and this is a tubless rim. (D1 steel)