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    Quote Originally Posted by INter674 View Post
    This prolly does not help but i was told not to use full synth in these autos..by at least two experts. I don't know why..but it was advised to only use dex3.

    Maybe someone else has a better view on the correct oil?
    I'd only use a full syn, and FWIW there's this list of approved oils that ZF publish and all the ones on the TE11b list that applies to the 4HP22E are....

    Full synthetics!!

    To be on that list it means the oil has to be submitted to ZF, your money paid (not an insubstantial amount) tested and then a license is issued if it passes their wear and performance tests.

    And another FWIW, all the oils on the TE11a/b lists meet or exceed the old (as it's superseded) Dexron IIIH spec

    The most respected, well regarded oil for these trans is Castrol Transmax Z, a full synthetic fluid (PAO/ester)

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_D2 View Post
    I’m wondering if I try another oil. I’ve just changed to this product after using something else. I’ve had no issues until after the last oil change.
    I'd do several more oil changes, you've replaced less than half of the old oil, and plenty of us use ATF FS without any problems whatsoever, it's a very good oil IMO.

    How clean were you when doing the filter and pan?
    The tiniest bit of crap can create problems in the valve body.
    There's a reason autos are assembled in a dust free assembly room.
    Did you use a solvent to clean the pan? (most leave residue, white spirit is a good one to use as it dries cleanly)

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    Right, I’ve got some homework to do! I think that the Penrite is unopened, so I might consider getting trans max. I’ll do the oil changes on Friday & c how things go afterwards.

    I can’t quite remember, is it about 6lt that this trans will take to fill?
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    If you decide to go the Z,,, it will also go in the PS and ACE....

    as you would expect,, its space shuttle stuff...
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    Penrite FS 40% off at Repco I’m off to stock up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    If you decide to go the Z,,, it will also go in the PS and ACE....

    as you would expect,, its space shuttle stuff...
    Transmax z is ps & ace compatible? I use the penrite ace stuff
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    Better not rely on those who sell oils for profit or on ''smart guys'' from various forums... IMO stick to the oil recommended by those who built it and for the D2 ZF4HP22/24 autobobox it must be a version of Dexron III. Period
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    Quote Originally Posted by sierrafery View Post
    Better not rely on those who sell oils for profit or on ''smart guys'' from various forums... IMO stick to the oil recommended by those who built it and for the D2 ZF4HP22/24 autobobox it must be a version of Dexron III. Period
    All the oils mentioned already (both! Auto Trans Issue?) are DexIIIH fluids, which doesn't really mean anything anymore as it's a superseded specification, ie. you can't submit a fluid to GM to be tested and licensed, we're relying on the oil blender's integrity that it meets the old spec.

    But ZF do release a list of licensed oils, as mentioned above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    ....DexIIIH fluids, which doesn't really mean anything anymore as it's a superseded specification, ...;.
    then i'm sorry and my apologies... though in my ignorance when ever i google out "dexron 3 transmission oil" i find up to date sites which are selling it now without being obsolete, just one example from many
    RAVENOL ATF Dexron III H - Ravenol so as long as Dexron III is still available on the market i'd buy that instead of ''smart'' alternatives as the D2 autobox is still that old one fitted 15-20 years ago which didnt get younger in time nor superseded

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    No need to be sorry, just pointing out what most people don't realise that the actual specification has been officially superseded by Dexron VI, although I wouldn't use a Dex VI as it's a low viscosity fluid, but it has superior oxidation, wear and clutch lock up characteristics to a DEX III while meeting the frictional requirements for the clutches.

    And FWIW I'd much rather use an ATF with a modern add package that meets the frictional requirements of Dex III
    Lubricants have come a long way in the last 15 years.

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