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Well, you said it. TheLR3/4 were predominantly petrol in the US haven’t heard of too many issues with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry;[URL="tel:3259019"
I hope you don’t think I’m defending Land Rover The TDV6 issue was and is a disgrace. Put me off the whole brand as far as new cars go.
I suspect not, but nor does he need them in this day and age.Quote:
Originally Posted by V8Ian
If qualifications were a prerequisite YouTube would not exist!
Not saying they wouldn't be helpful.
I recently sold my Grenadier after approximately 2 years of ownership. Principal reason was requiring an additional seat, although there was also benefit in freeing up funds for different priorities.
Happy to answer any questions anyone may have, I like to think I have a good grasp on the pros and cons of the platform without the usual bias. Like with any vehicle, ownership experiences differ.
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Originally Posted by Mules
I would like to know the following:
What sort (if any) problems/issues you had in your 2yr ownership?
Was yours a Petrol or Diesel?
Fuel Range (talking about remote travelling here) - How did u go with fuel Range where u need enough fuel to cover>800kms
I believe when u drive off-road that u can end up burning more "AdBlue" then they quote in the Owner's manual - Did u ever have issues where u thought u might run out either by using too much or just unable to source more Adblue?
Did your have Front & Rear Diff Locks - Any issues with engaging them? Can they be engage in High Range or only in Low Range?
Did your have a suspension Lift? If so, any issues with Prop-shaft angles, etc?
What sort of off-roading did u do? Anything that you would call hard?
Any software Issues?
Servicing costs - Are they experience to service or average?
Sourcing Spare Parts - Filters & other mechanical parts (if req'd) - How easy is this?
How many kilometres did u put on your vehicle?
Was the service/running costs reasonable when compared to other vehicles?
thanks in advance
Seen a couple of vids, which I won't link, saying that Grenadiers have a New year hangover and are demanding to be serviced. "I'm X000 days overdue". Not something you want to hear from your girlfriend, let alone your car.
I have no idea if this is true, but at least there are no reports of them stopping, or falling from the sky[bigwhistle]
It's true, there's a tally board on the international owners forum ..one chap from the USA with new Quartermaster is 6000+ days overdue.... Some seem affected, others are clear. Ineos is "working on it".... It's the digital equivalent of a hand written service reminder sticker on the windscreen. Some software engineers are just too clever ...not. Seems to be a case of ambition outstripping talent....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins
The grenadier certainly has promise as a platform. Given another few years of hardening and bug fixes they could be quite good. The question is will the company survive long enough to get this done? Or even will the importation into Australia continue?
Now the people who absolutely have to have one actually have one. So now they must compete in a really competitive market. And it's not going well.
There is a channel called "Outback OffroadNT" which is some light entertainment. A station worker west of Alice. He's got a Cruiser which is a large part of the channel. It's interesting watching him go through the pros and cons of the Toyota 76. It's certainly not all positive - but people need a basic work truck. One that isn't full of needless tech, and one that can if necesary be worked on in the bush because it's a long way to town. IMHO this is the market that Ineos have absolutely done themselves a number by missing. If they had made the vehicle price competitive then the newer design of it.. it could have dominated the segment. With the volumes they would have been able to establish a support network ouside of the coast. They could have become a 4x4 legend.
Instead they went after "Premium niche offroad". So now they are trying to sell a utility 4x4 up against the best in the business like landcruiser, prado, patrol etc. No chance. Without sales they are done for.
If I had one I'd just be waiting for the Friday afternoon press release "Ineos set to leave the Australian market".
The later LC76 has a huge payload,way more than any other new wagon on the market,something like 1200KG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
It is also on pause ATM.
The NVES garbage(my opinion only) might not do Grenadier any favours either.
It won't help the grenadier, but won't help any other similar vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
The difference with Ineos is that they have no other vehicles that are more economical to offset the grenadier. They will likely have to buy credits from the EV brands.
Which will increase prices,or they may say,we are out of here,as some other brands will inevitably do as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot
In it's current form i doubt NVES will survive anyway.
A backlash from the Auto industry is inevitable.