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Originally Posted by Arapiles
But so are cruisers, actually more. I tried to do a comparison but in many ways its trying to compare apples with oranges. Toyota dont tell you how much its really going to cost unless you call the dealer. 300 series start at $96 k with no accessories. So Grenadier is 84.5k with no accessories as a two seater, or 85.5 k as a 5 seater. Its only when you add bits it adds up! And taxes etc.
I think Tombie hit the mark. The biggest issue is laying out 6 figures of hard earned not knowing if the brand will survive. If it was priced to steal away the massive dual cab ute market in Australia that would help it a lot. A basic one with at least a rear locker for say $75k on the road and even Wildtrack fans may come across and those who might stretch to a Defender but would love to make a saving. Don't see too many of those who would buy a 300 series or a 70 Series opting for one. Cheers
DeefaQuote:
Originally Posted by Deefa
The 300 series starts at $98k on road whereas the INEOS starts at $85.5 with out on roads
I wish mine were 1 day jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deefa
If the Grenadier doesn’t/can’t make Ancap 5 it will lose a significant portion of its sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
No mine fleets
No government fleets
No emergency services
I recall one of the main Engineers or designers (can't recall which) saying openly early on that it would be 4 star and very solid. So yep it will not garner fleets but I venture to say it would unlikely garner such customers for many years even if could achieve 5 stars. CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
LC 300,GXL around $110K,VX around $120K,driveaway,makes it a better buy than Grenadia,for many reasons,particularly the ones Tombie has brought up.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
Then there is the Defender,with a multitude of models and options at all sorts of prices,for those that want one.
I dont think the 70 series,no matter which model is comparable,even the 76 is pretty utilitarian,and more of a commercial vehicle.
Ok sorry I thought that was plus on roads. Just had a look and you are correct. The cruiser price includes rego for 12 months, dealer delv and stamp duty. However I'm not sure that includes the Luxury car tax? It does say in the disclaimer plus statutory taxes. They usually state a price for ABN holders as if you have an ABN and its going to be used for a business then LCT does not apply.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
Rego and stamp duty for QLD is about $4500 so Grenadier around say 90k for very basic model. Not a huge amount in it but probably as others said the Landcruiser is a safer bet.
Why we comparing a 300 series with a Ineos - they are a different class of vehicle - might as well as compare a Ineos with FF RR.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
Need to compare apples with apples - Ineos competes with the Toyota 70 series in Aust - I really dont see anything else - except maybe for a basic Defender.
Either way it will be an improvement over a defender (the old one not the new one).Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott