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Thread: Climate Change and our Land of Fire, Flood and Drought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    it was flipping cold the other night!
    ....that's why I don't live there.

    Can't understand why all my rellies do....

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    Scientific consensus is that climate change is making all types of weather events - droughts, cyclones etc - more extreme.
    Consensus is also that average annual temperatures are just going to keep rising, to at least 4 degrees hotter by the end of the century.
    In Australia the desert will just keep spreading and the coastal green strip will keep shrinking, particularly if it is repeatedly ravaged by bush fires.
    This is the predicted reality we face, so don't kid yourselves with worthless denialist distractions. Face reality.

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    Ross Garnaut's climate change prophecy is coming true and experts warn it's going to cost the nation billions
    Ross Garnaut's climate change prophecy is coming true and it's going to cost Australia billions, experts warn - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Time to think about pulling back on our "Foreign Aid" & look after #1. Charity begins at home & we are all going to need it, not some country that can afford to build Nuclear Weapons & other War Materiels & has publically stated doesn't need aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Ross Garnaut's climate change prophecy is coming true and experts warn it's going to cost the nation billions
    Ross Garnaut's climate change prophecy is coming true and it's going to cost Australia billions, experts warn - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Again (and not your fault Mick) an article solely focused on Economics rather than any proposing real world solutions.

    Why? Because they don’t have any workable solutions that don’t impact economic global models.

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    Yes they do. Renewables are a huge new industry which is already creating a huge number of jobs.
    We failed to exploit Australian research which was taken to China and turned into the world's largest manufacturer of solar panels. Now we're failing to grab the chance to expand our existing battery manufacturing industry to make lithium batteries.
    We've got to go beyond the 'dig it up and ship it out' mentality and manufacture more of our needs for export. It may be hard, but some companies do it successfully and we need to get serious and realise we can no longer rely on being lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    ..... Now we're failing to grab the chance to expand our existing battery manufacturing industry to make lithium batteries.
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    Lithium is not the answer to future energy needs.
    It's a stop gap, short term solution. If the longer term future minimalist impact is the goal, then short term solutions like lithium will simply repeat the cycle all over again.
    You can't keep 'mining' your way towards a sustainable future.

    Once again, the popularization/hyperbole issue cropping up, in that lithium batteries will 'save the planet'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Yes they do. Renewables are a huge new industry which is already creating a huge number of jobs.
    We failed to exploit Australian research which was taken to China and turned into the world's largest manufacturer of solar panels. Now we're failing to grab the chance to expand our existing battery manufacturing industry to make lithium batteries.
    We've got to go beyond the 'dig it up and ship it out' mentality and manufacture more of our needs for export. It may be hard, but some companies do it successfully and we need to get serious and realise we can no longer rely on being lucky.
    Actually we can. There’s an old saying ”Stick to your knitting”

    If a portion of this planet is optimum for fruit and vegetable growing it should do that with its eye on supplying the world.

    If a portion of the planet is raw minerals it should look to supply them globally

    Same for Cattle etc etc...

    Trying to do something that can not be done well, efficiently or dare I say it economically will not in the current GDP driven world work.

    The model of living somewhere and having it all is outdated. Heck the model of living in one place is completely outdated.

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    I'm sure the technology will keep improving. My point was we should be making it here instead of importing.
    There's no point complaining that the Chinese make everything now if we sit on our bums and do nothing to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Actually we can. There’s an old saying ”Stick to your knitting”

    If a portion of this planet is optimum for fruit and vegetable growing it should do that with its eye on supplying the world.

    If a portion of the planet is raw minerals it should look to supply them globally

    Same for Cattle etc etc...

    Trying to do something that can not be done well, efficiently or dare I say it economically will not in the current GDP driven world work.

    The model of living somewhere and having it all is outdated. Heck the model of living in one place is completely outdated.
    Eighty percent of our GDP is generated from a thin strip around the coasts.
    Climate change is shrinking our suitable land for growing food.
    Much of our grazing land is already low productivity wasteland.
    Our luck is running out.

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