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3rd October 2020, 08:04 AM
Fatso

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Originally Posted by rick130

Contact tracing and localised controls along with people diligently sanitising, wearing masks etc. does that, not keeping borders closed

This will be with us for a while

Yes as it worked in the US the UK and Europe !! . " people diligently sanatising , wearing masks etc " in a prefect world [bigwhistle].
3rd October 2020, 08:40 AM
trout1105

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Originally Posted by rick130

Contact tracing and localised controls along with people diligently sanitising, wearing masks etc. does that, not keeping borders closed

This will be with us for a while

This is precisely why the WA border won't be opening up anytime soon as it will take 28 days of zero community transmissions to do the job.
For those that say this is an impossible target then think again and look at what the other States have managed to do, WA for instance hasn't had a new community transmission in over 6 months.
3rd October 2020, 08:41 AM
rick130

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Originally Posted by Fatso

Yes as it worked in the US the UK and Europe !! . " people diligently sanatising , wearing masks etc " in a prefect world [bigwhistle].

OS has been a total balls up, but the hard border closures here on the whole are politically motivated.

How about the contact tracing done in NSW, or the localised lockdown and mask wearing in Vic?
I'd consider both a stunning success so far.
3rd October 2020, 08:50 AM
trout1105

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Originally Posted by rick130

OS has been a total balls up, but the hard border closures here on the whole are politically motivated.

How about the contact tracing done in NSW, or the localised lockdown and mask wearing in Vic?
I'd consider both a stunning success so far.

I am not convinced that the WA border closure is politically motivated BUT I Am convinced that is has been a Stunning success Much more so than VIC or NSW efforts and results[bigwhistle]
3rd October 2020, 08:51 AM
4bee

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

This is interesting. The Melbourne hotel quarantine workers did not get infected in the hotels.
They were infected in the community and went to work before showing symptoms. So that kills the assumptions they got it from returned travellers because of lax infection controls. Not true. They got it in the community.
The story lists 9 hotel workers, mostly from Spotless, but also a police officer and others.
That would be consistent with aged care workers also getting infected in the community and taking the virus into aged care homes, where 665 elderly died in Victoria.
So that has obvious implications for the hotel quarantine inquiry, where people have tried to blame certain people, which I won't spell out because this isn't the Current Affairs section.

Victorian coronavirus hotel quarantine staff worked became infected in community, not at work: investigation
Victorian coronavirus hotel quarantine staff worked became infected in community, not at work: investigation - ABC News

It also could be a "They would say that. " moment. There has been far to much of the blame game to accept that at face Value. Cynical? You bet.

Now the politically aimed excuses come out to cover more arses & jobs.
3rd October 2020, 09:17 AM
Fatso

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick130

OS has been a total balls up, but the hard border closures here on the whole are politically motivated.

How about the contact tracing done in NSW, or the localised lockdown and mask wearing in Vic?
I'd consider both a stunning success so far.

All too late, should have been done when this thing started early in the year and maybe we all could have been closer to opening up our borders by now .
3rd October 2020, 09:19 AM
superquag

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Originally Posted by ozscott

What is funny (sad) is a country as large as the USA that can only field these two to face off as the next President. Tragic and emblematic of a country is chaos and decline.

Four years ago I was communicating with a rather dignified and intelligent gentleman in the US of A, and his comment - on the candidates - was "How have we come to this ? - Either the (pejorative term for female canine) - or the ----- (similarly disreputable term for a) criminal male" ???

Basically, things haven't improved, except both candidates are in the Very High Risk (Wuhan Flu) age range. That may yet whittle down the choices !

If the worst we face is closed & variable State borders, spare a fleeting thought for the unfortunate 'Mericans / 'Mercans....

- And be thankful we still use paper votes, SO much more difficult to rig an election.

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3rd October 2020, 09:24 AM
superquag

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

This is interesting. The Melbourne hotel quarantine workers did not get infected in the hotels.
They were infected in the community and went to work before showing symptoms. So that kills the assumptions they got it from returned travellers because of lax infection controls. Not true. They got it in the community.
The story lists 9 hotel workers, mostly from Spotless, but also a police officer and others.
That would be consistent with aged care workers also getting infected in the community and taking the virus into aged care homes, where 665 elderly died in Victoria.
So that has obvious implications for the hotel quarantine inquiry, where people have tried to blame certain people, which I won't spell out because this isn't the Current Affairs section.

Victorian coronavirus hotel quarantine staff worked became infected in community, not at work: investigation
Victorian coronavirus hotel quarantine staff worked became infected in community, not at work: investigation - ABC News

"I wish you wouldn't distort and confuse the issue with..... facts. !"
signed: - A Politician.

On a practical note, did you notice the emphasis on 'Backwards' contact tracing ? ie, Where / how / from whom did the patient get infected ? - NOT what we're using (hope I'm wrong!) which is 'forward' tracing as seen with mobile phone apps.... 'Who has this infected person been near and possibly passed it on to ?'
3rd October 2020, 09:33 AM
superquag

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Originally Posted by 1950landy

News just to hand Donald Trump & wife have tested positive to Covid 19 , that should shut him up for a while. Looks like there could be at least 20 staff infected also & he may have also infected people at his rally .

Shut up a POLITICIAN ? - In your Dreams ! [bigsad]
3rd October 2020, 09:44 AM
superquag

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Originally Posted by rick130

OS has been a total balls up, but the hard border closures here on the whole are politically motivated.

How about the contact tracing done in NSW, or the localised lockdown and mask wearing in Vic?
I'd consider both a stunning success so far.

Don't be lulled into complacency when wearing a surgical or N95 mask... This and other articles from here are sobering...
WHO Mask Study Seriously Flawed – Swiss Policy Research

and this one too:- Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence. – Swiss Policy Research

But this Swedish military mask does work... want to wear it when outside your house ?

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