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20th October 2020, 08:35 PM
350RRC

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Originally Posted by Fatso

Was sought of talking about current events and what we are doing now in lifting restrictions too quickly to appease peoples wishes , Including ( NZ Bubble ) , if it was 820 in Britain in August as you say lets hope we not in the same boat in Jan 2021 as they are now , as we seem to doing now what they did then .

Complacency is the enemy now , and it is growing .

The point was that the 'starting point' was the same day, 725 in Vic, 820 ish in England.

One jurisdiction bit the bullet to minimise risk to public health, one minimised risk to private and public wealth.

Maybe there is only about 1 or less new cases in Vic today, there now over 10,000 new daily cases in the UK.

Vic is nearly where every country would like to be with new case numbers now, as in NOW.

How long is it going to take the UK to even get close and what it is it going to cost to reign in when it's gone so far out of control? Their 'now' is a fair way off, sadly.

DL
21st October 2020, 09:51 AM
Gordie

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Originally Posted by Fatso

Was sought of talking about current events and what we are doing now in lifting restrictions too quickly to appease peoples wishes , Including ( NZ Bubble ) , if it was 820 in Britain in August as you say lets hope we not in the same boat in Jan 2021 as they are now , as we seem to doing now what they did then .

Complacency is the enemy now , and it is growing .

And just for clarity, the NZ bubble wasn't NZ's wish. NZ isn't actually reciprocating in it and technically it isn't a bubble...as we are not allowing anyone in from Aus without quarantine.

It is your esteemed PM's wish. He has opened your borders to NZ.
21st October 2020, 10:20 AM
trout1105

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Originally Posted by Gordie

And just for clarity, the NZ bubble wasn't NZ's wish. NZ isn't actually reciprocating in it and technically it isn't a bubble...as we are not allowing anyone in from Aus without quarantine.

It is your esteemed PM's wish. He has opened your borders to NZ.

Yet just another case of "grandstanding" by Morrison which is actually hurting the thousands of Australians trying to get back home because for every Kiwi that has to enter quarantine there is an Australian that will miss out, Unbloodybelievable arrogance on the PM's part.
21st October 2020, 10:29 AM
Gordie

Stevie Marshall has just opened SA's borders to NZ, 12 kiwis in quarantine in SA released forthwith. He is asking NZ to reciprocate. Of all the states, SA would have the best chance, having quite a 'clean' record.

In saying that, NZ has just brought in a plane load of Russian seamen, to staff our 'parked up' deep sea trawlers. (no kiwis qualified to sail them apparently???).... 12 of them have tested positive in quarantine....although they were all 'negative' before they departed for NZ.

Just goes to show, complacency can be russian roulette.
21st October 2020, 10:43 AM
windsock

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Originally Posted by Gordie

Stevie Marshall has just opened SA's borders to NZ, 12 kiwis in quarantine in SA released forthwith. He is asking NZ to reciprocate. Of all the states, SA would have the best chance, having quite a 'clean' record.

In saying that, NZ has just brought in a plane load of Russian seamen, to staff our 'parked up' deep sea trawlers. (no kiwis qualified to sail them apparently???).... 12 of them have tested positive in quarantine....although they were all 'negative' before they departed for NZ.

Just goes to show, complacency can be russian roulette.

Latest update as at 1pm, 18 infected Russian seamen. They are part of a cohort of 237 seamen imported last Friday. They apparently did two weeks self-isolation, and were tested three days before the flight but that was delayed a day so 96 hours preflight test. Two were found positive and denied boarding.

It was a consortium of three fishing companies that privately bought these guys in working with the NZ Govt.

In other news, the port worker infected here as a community case alluded to in an earlier post was an electronics engineer contracted to work on various ships around NZ while berthed. Two work colleagues have since tested positive and are in quarantine. The boat they suspect the electrics guy was infected on is now at Brisbane - the Sofrana Surville. There are indications in the media the crew is being tested by Aust authorities and the results will be forthcoming. The genome sequence of the port worker is new to NZ and not associated with any other case here.
21st October 2020, 11:35 AM
Fatso

[QUOTE=Gordie;3038584]And just for clarity, the NZ bubble wasn't NZ's wish. NZ isn't actually reciprocating in it and technically it isn't a bubble...as we are not allowing anyone in from Aus without quarantine.

It is your esteemed PM's wish. He has opened your borders to NZ.[/QUOTE

Yes you are correct it was Not NZ wish , i was just using it to expand on what is starting to Morph into some sort of the idea that the problem has gone away in Oz , & a lot of the population/business is demanding change to be able to move around and or operate more freely .

I just look at what has happened elsewhere in the world and wonder how we are different to them in controlling less restrictions as most over there appear to be going back into lock downs and Hospitals becoming crowded .

WA at the moment has a problem with infected ships crews , like wise your Russian crews . Anyway its only my point of view and can only go along with the flow but wont be treating this thing as over .
21st October 2020, 11:40 AM
101RRS

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Yet just another case of "grandstanding" by Morrison which is actually hurting the thousands of Australians trying to get back home because for every Kiwi that has to enter quarantine there is an Australian that will miss out, Unbloodybelievable arrogance on the PM's part.

Well no - just the Lack of Democracy Republic of WA - anywhere else the Kiwis do not count towards the arrival restrictions.
21st October 2020, 11:58 AM
4bee

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Originally Posted by Gordie

Stevie Marshall has just opened SA's borders to NZ, 12 kiwis in quarantine in SA released forthwith. He is asking NZ to reciprocate. Of all the states, SA would have the best chance, having quite a 'clean' record.

In saying that, NZ has just brought in a plane load of Russian seamen, to staff our 'parked up' deep sea trawlers. (no kiwis qualified to sail them apparently???).... 12 of them have tested positive in quarantine....although they were all 'negative' before they departed for NZ.

Just goes to show, complacency can be russian roulette.

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In saying that, NZ has just brought in a plane load of Russian semen

That is a future problem you wouldn't wish to be involved in.

Well, some one was bound to say it because they thought it.:Rolling::wallbash:
21st October 2020, 12:08 PM
Gordie

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Originally Posted by 4bee

That is a future problem you wouldn't wish to be involved in.

Well, some one was bound to say it because they thought it.:Rolling::wallbash:

Nyet Nyet, don't go there my friend.
21st October 2020, 04:12 PM
superquag

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Originally Posted by Eevo

the gift that keeps on giving

Bigger question is...'Why the heck were they being tested for Blood GLUCOSE ? Is the 'diabetic Mafia' seeking to expand influence ??

For an otherwise healthy person, there is NO good reason to test....and just as relevant, said persons are (IMHO) IDIOTS for allowing such tests - finger-******.

I wonder what sort of "story" was spun to get them to agree ? - NO ONE is "obliged" to permit a bodily invasion, especially breaking your skin. Permission must be both politely sought....and Patient's informed consent must be freely given.

- Otherwise, off to Nurenberg with you !!![bigsad][bigsad][bigsad]

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