Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

My bet is IF Covid goes wild here again we will then see all of us offered the CSL astraZ vaccine again under 50 included.
W.H.O. is grumpy that rich counties may now sell or give our not at present desirable vaccines to poorer countries is a little odd. Very sure places with few choices and growing cases of Covid 19 and overwhelmed health systems will happily take the life saving options we may not.

Not wishing for an outbreak here. Suspect with the virus changes which have and will occur, it would be almost impossible for us not to have a fairly significant risk of known unknowns going wild here again.

W.H.O? Hang about, ain't they the mob charged with protecting the World's Health or just another Quango with a posh Title? That is an odd position to take, J1.

Originally Posted by bob10

Yes, but why the kerfuffle over the EU supposedly stopping delivery? Was that just bull**** too? Why worry about more from Europe, when we make our own, we might ask. Perhaps it's not so much production, as delivery. And who is in charge of delivery?

Maybe the RAAF, off the rear ramp of a C130 or C17 as they track over all the towns in OZ? "Piece of ****" say the Air Dispatchers.


Weeeeeeeelll they might as well.



EDIT.

Scomo mate, you had better get your Mob's act together as Election Day draws closer, just like your nuts in a Mangle.

Quit the bull****, give us the truth & get the **** on with it ASAP.

Originally Posted by 4bee

...Blind Freddy could foresee that this was all going to happen despite words of wisdom & assurance from World Leaders & our own Gubmint" Remember the words? "Sharing Equally"? Hang on B, wasn't that before some countries didn't believe they would need it & didn't order it. Well they slipped on their Garlicky arses there then. ie France & Germany to name but two. More fool that our gubmint was so slack & laid back about it & believed these jokers were honest. Frogs, honest? Germans honest? Well they also slipped on their arse as well. Say what you like but they ****ed up. No more no less. Normally we are suspicious of Politicians & their bull**** but this time around why did we believe them?.

Jeezuz bob, it looks like I just snuk in being 85. For now that is, until the next Warning Advisory is published. "All those under 150 don't get the jab." Oh **** we've just done a lot of the Country. Oh well put it down to experience, boys. Next?

Hang on , old mate The EU [ France & Germany included] were making AZ long before we started. They are well advanced in their vaccination programs, we are rated 90th in the World. Their problems were their public just weren't disciplined enough [ unlike Aus.] to do all what was necessary to keep safe. Including hard lock downs. And we are lucky we are not as densely populated as Europe, and even more fortunate to be relatively isolated from the rest of the World, [ except PNG, which is now a worry. Why have we waited so long to help PNG, it was obvious that the virus would run rampant there?] If there are failings in our vaccination process , don't point the finger at any one outside Australia.

It is easy to be wise after an event, and this is , dare I say it " unprecedented ". But that is no excuse for the running train wreck that is becoming our vaccination process. Why is it the States publish data on the rollout, but the federal government refuses.? A fair question , I'd say. It's the lack of transparency , and that's a word that needs translating , so here goes;
Transparency, as used in science, engineering, business, the humanities and in other social contexts, is operating in such a way that it is easy for others to see what actions are performed. Transparency implies openness, communication, and accountability.

Let that be the start point.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Huh?
The good news is that AZ is produced locally.

Minister Hunt had a press conference 2 days ago which described shipments of about 500,000 AZ per week for the next two weeks or 1 million in total.


This was stuff already being packed and some subject to TGA approval.

Regards PhilipA

The Australian-made doses

What they said: “We’re ahead of schedule for the delivery of the CSL doses. The first doses have been brought forward to an expected late March supply of approximately one million per week” (Greg Hunt, January 29)

What’s actually happening: CSL is still not producing one million doses a week of AstraZeneca, but it is getting close.
Mr Hunt revealed on Wednesday about 1.3 million doses of CSL-made AstraZeneca had already been distributed, with another 1.7 million expected to be batch tested and ready for administration “over the next eight or so days”.
It equates to about three million doses over three and a half weeks. However, CSL did fall short of plans to supply two million doses by the end of March.

Professor Murphy said CSL would produce about 800,000 doses a week in coming weeks, but had given a “strong commitment” to “regularly achieve over a million doses a week”.
TND understands CSL is looking to make refinements to its processes to accelerate the doses it produces, including quickening its “fill and finish” process where raw product is bottled and distributed.

Originally Posted by bob10

Hang on , old mate The EU [ France & Germany included] were making AZ long before we started. They are well advanced in their vaccination programs, we are rated 90th in the World. Their problems were their public just weren't disciplined enough [ unlike Aus.] to do all what was necessary to keep safe. Including hard lock downs. And we are lucky we are not as densely populated as Europe, and even more fortunate to be relatively isolated from the rest of the World, [ except PNG, which is now a worry. Why have we waited so long to help PNG, it was obvious that the virus would run rampant there?] If there are failings in our vaccination process , don't point the finger at any one outside Australia.

It is easy to be wise after an event, and this is , dare I say it " unprecedented ". But that is no excuse for the running train wreck that is becoming our vaccination process. Why is it the States publish data on the rollout, but the federal government refuses.? A fair question , I'd say. It's the lack of transparency , and that's a word that needs translating , so here goes;
Transparency, as used in science, engineering, business, the humanities and in other social contexts, is operating in such a way that it is easy for others to see what actions are performed. Transparency implies openness, communication, and accountability.

Let that be the start point.

Sorry, force of habit I'm afraid. I get like this with Slippery bastard countries & there are a few more but atm they seem to be holding the line.


All we need to do is find a way to send Scomo a copy of this thread including your line....

Transparency implies openness, communication, and accountability.

It was inevitable, but there has been a case of the virus in Victoria at hotel quarantine. Nothing to worry about at this point, you would think. Have all those working in hotel quarantine been vaccinated? How much difference does it make, if they haven't had the second dose?. And why the hell are we talking about this at this stage of our vaccine roll out?

First hotel quarantine coronavirus case recorded in Victoria (msn.com)

Originally Posted by 4bee

Sorry, force of habit I'm afraid. I get like this with Slippery bastard countries & there are a few more but atm they seem to be holding the line.


All we need to do is find a way to send Scomo a copy of this thread including your line....

Yeah I know mate. Who won the War any way? Where's Alf Garnett when you really need him.

Originally Posted by bob10

The Australian-made doses

What they said: “We’re ahead of schedule for the delivery of the CSL doses. The first doses have been brought forward to an expected late March supply of approximately one million per week” (Greg Hunt, January 29)

What’s actually happening: CSL is still not producing one million doses a week of AstraZeneca, but it is getting close.
Mr Hunt revealed on Wednesday about 1.3 million doses of CSL-made AstraZeneca had already been distributed, with another 1.7 million expected to be batch tested and ready for administration “over the next eight or so days”.
It equates to about three million doses over three and a half weeks. However, CSL did fall short of plans to supply two million doses by the end of March.

Professor Murphy said CSL would produce about 800,000 doses a week in coming weeks, but had given a “strong commitment” to “regularly achieve over a million doses a week”.
TND understands CSL is looking to make refinements to its processes to accelerate the doses it produces, including quickening its “fill and finish” process where raw product is bottled and distributed.

So, CSL are going to do three eight hour shifts per day or 4 x six hour ones or even 12 x two hour ones or 24 x one hour ones by the sound of that, in which case that should have been planned for at the beginning & not waiting for the brown stuff to implode on the spinny thing.


The health of all Australians is at stake here.