Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by bob10

Read this and weep.


From reassurance to shambles: how Australia’s coronavirus vaccine rollout unravelled (msn.com)

"Purchase Agreements" do not seem to be worth the fag packets or Drink Coasters that they are written on.

Originally Posted by 4bee

"Purchase Agreements" do not seem to be worth the fag packets or Drink Coasters that they are written on.

It's all depending on how the purchase agreement [ AKA Deal ] is presented to the public . The announcement was Australia had negotiated vaccine ' deals ' , which , when put under the microscope, were actually just " letters of intent". No done deal at all. The vaccine rollout has been characterised by four key mistakes, mainly caused by our leaders giving priority to a good political story over good policy. These were , according to " the conversation " April 1st, 2021, ;

!. The wrong Pace

2. The wrong phasing

3. The wrong model

4. The wrong messaging.

1. Stephen Duckett Stephen Duckett is a Friend of The Conversation.
   Director, Health Program, Grattan Institute

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"On March 22 Hunt announced the second phase, which includes more than six million people, and encouraged people to call their GP to organise a vaccination. He made this announcement knowing Australia didn’t have enough vaccines to meet demand.

GPs hadn’t been warned of the impending tsunami of calls, nor did they know how many doses they would get and when. The federal government didn’t have a robust logistics system to ensure the right doses got to the right places at the right times. GPs were, rightly, extremely angry.
The logistics nightmares continue, with the federal government persistently failing to provide clarity about dose distribution to either states or GPs.

The federal government has seen the vaccine rollout not as a public health program but as a political issue, complete with the Liberal Party logo on a vaccine announcement. The focus has been on announcables and good news stories, with the glory to shine back on the government in the lead-up to an election.

This focus has meant the government’s initial priority was a rollout through GPs and, later, pharmacies.
Involvement of GPs was the right call — it’s good for doctors to provide a comprehensive range of services to their patients. But reliance on GPs was the mistake.

Delivery of vaccines from the warehouses to states or GPs has been a debacle. Neither the states nor GPs knew from one week to the next how many vaccines they were due, which made planning impossible. GPs booked patients expecting hundreds of doses but got a fraction of that, causing massive extra work to cancel appointments

You can not defend the indefensible.

4 ways Australia's COVID vaccine rollout has been bungled (theconversation.com)

Originally Posted by 4bee

All we need to do is find a way to send Scomo a copy of this thread including your line....

You doubt that he's subscribed to it?

These were , according to " the conversation " April 1st, 2021,

Maybe it's an April fools joke.

everything is 20/20 in hindsight.

Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by V8Ian

You doubt that he's subscribed to it?

On your Dash Panel you might be able to find something that might point him in this direction.

ie. Plonker, Politician??? Garbage Vendor? If he's there, I know you'll pick him out.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Maybe it's an April fools joke.

everything is 20/20 in hindsight.

Regards PhilipA

You may be onto something there, Philip The Vaccine was an AF Joke on us?

CSL is now owned by Inuits in partnership with Donald Trump of MAGA ill fame & they are not parting with the formula for anybody?


There is no such thing as a C-19 Vaccine it was all a huge hoax for publicity for Toymota Owners? Don't ask.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Maybe it's an April fools joke.

everything is 20/20 in hindsight.

Regards PhilipA

Diane Abbot says it well.

Originally Posted by Eevo

there is a good reason for that

There are several good reasons and fortunately none of them affect the safety or efficacy of the vaccine.
One reason is that work was started on this type of vaccine about 15 years ago.
Another reason is that scientists didn't have to waste precious time applying and reapplying for research funding.
Another reason is that there was no time wasted getting enough volunteers to run trials.
Another reason is that because this virus is so transmissible, it didn't take long to get meaningful data about the safety and efficacy of the vaccine.
Another reason is that steps were taken to begin manufacturing while trials were still ongoing, taking the gamble on the trials being successful.
Another reason is that today medical science has techniques available that save time.
There are probably other reasons too, but the simple answer is that the resources employed to create this vaccine are probably greater than the resources used to create earlier vaccines.
All of that adds up to the fact that it is possible that this vaccine is safer than some earlier ones that took years to develop.