Thread: Covid Mk ll

Originally Posted by Tote

The article assumes that “Responding aggressively and eliminating the virus” is an option.
Perhaps it is in those states that are lucky enough through population density, demographics, lifestyle or whatever other factors are at play that has repeatedly allowed them to recover from outbreaks.
It certainly isn’t an option in Sydney where vaccination is the only viable solution, Melbourne is rapidly heading the same way with a three day lockdown extended to three weeks so far
Over 10,000 people are in isolation in the ACT and I’m dubious of their chances of doing much better, although they might just pull it off.
The best aggressive response is to get enough people vaccinated and finally it is starting to happen.

Regards
Tote

"Luck" has SFA to do with the fact that the other States have had better results from their lockdowns, These results have been achieved through Better management than NSW's efforts of the various outbreaks.
I refer you to post #15 by Windsock and the fact that there is a very high Non compliance rate in NSW to lockdown rules, Population desity, demogaphics and lifestyle cannot be used as a "Scapegoat" for the NSW governments poor/slow respose to this latest lockdown and the continuing Non compliance by so many of its citizens.

Originally Posted by Tote

The article assumes that “Responding aggressively and eliminating the virus” is an option.
Perhaps it is in those states that are lucky enough through population density, demographics, lifestyle or whatever other factors are at play that has repeatedly allowed them to recover from outbreaks.
It certainly isn’t an option in Sydney where vaccination is the only viable solution, Melbourne is rapidly heading the same way with a three day lockdown extended to three weeks so far
Over 10,000 people are in isolation in the ACT and I’m dubious of their chances of doing much better, although they might just pull it off.
The best aggressive response is to get enough people vaccinated and finally it is starting to happen.

Regards
Tote

I put it to you that where aggressive response has been initiated, with a clear and concise plan, with restrictions explained clearly to the whole population, this gives the best hope for reducing the virus to a level where it may be possible to live with it. The whole population has to buy into the plan, and it seems that this factor may be the reason some areas do better than others . I also believe population density is a large factor in controlling the virus, especially if you have to start with the handicap of waiting too long. As for people in isolation, it wasn't that long ago that we up here had over 12,000 in home quarantine. We now have less than 1,000 , I believe. Not one broke quarantine, and those with a member of the family testing positive, they started the 14 days isolation over again , and again, until no infections were recorded. So I have confidence the ACT will do the same. It can be done, and I believe it will be done.

Vaccine hesitancy in QLD is the second highest in Australia after South Australia, and the vaccination rate is the second lowest after Western Australia. The State Gov. has been criticised in recent months for mixed messages about the AZ vaccine , and for a lack of urgency in the early months of the roll out. The Premier Anna says one of the biggest lags is being lost in translation in multicultural communities, which has been an issue in Sydney and Melbourne.


To that end, QLD is beginning a multilingual ad blitz on social media, television , and radio, to help boost vaccine uptake among people who speak English as a second language. From inqld.com.au;


Lost in translation: Multicultural communities to be focus of vaccine campaign (inqld.com.au)

Originally Posted by Eevo

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a proper lockdown is marital law style.

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thats an aggressive response.

Nailed it

It’s very easy to sit in WA and Qld where the population has a different set of experiences, contributing to a bias of "we've beaten it, why can't the other states" to be critical of government responses. I agree with Eevo that a martial law shutdown would fix it but in NSW we have already had people dying of Covid at home because they were reluctant to seek medical help.
If we pursue that line all the country would stop functioning in 2 weeks. No fuel, no food, and a population in chaos
As for not locking down hard enough Victoria is the king of steel rings and they are clearly struggling with Delta.
Regards
Tote

Am getting ready for the long haul out of this over here in NZ.

Some early reports of positive tests in Wellington; though unconfirmed, would not be unexpected. Auckland is a hub-city where business travel, holidays, transit through to other centres has been allowed without restriction. Any hopes that this might be contained in Auckland must have been slim at best. No news yet of any cases in Coromandel.

Kind of figured on a lock down at some stage. Two weeks ago, I ordered a few spare parts for the old 110 and it looks likely I will now have time on my hands to drop the LT77 and LT230 gearboxes and replace those leaky seals, replace the clutch plate and redo all my suspension bushes...

Silver linings...

Luck has a lot to do with it. During our recent lockdown I was legitimately out and about in Brisbane and Ipswich. Despite much publicity claiming that motorists would be stopped and have their legitimacy to be away from home scrutinised, I saw no vehicles intercepted. I noticed significant numbers of people incorrectly, or simply not wearing masks. Social distancing was largely ignored. One doctor's surgery I visited, didn't even have check in facilitation.
Last year I spent time in WA, travelling between Leeman, Perth and Bunbury, very few locals were observing the rules while interstate truck drivers had a high compliance rate.
The luck is whether the noncompliant sector is carrying the virus or not.

Originally Posted by Tote

It’s very easy to sit in WA and Qld and pontificate on how those stares have been successful. I agree with Eevo that a martial law shutdown would fix it but in NSW we have already had people dying of Covid at home because they were reluctant to seek medical help.
If we persue that line all the country would stop functioning in 2 weeks. No fuel, no food, and a population in chaos
As for not locking down hard enough Victoria is the king of steel rings and they are clearly struggling with Delta.
Regards
Tote

The key term here is essential business vs non-essential business.