Another Tyre thread

[weeds]

what about the 1.5 times?? If someone can explain/ work it out for me, would be greatly appreciated,

Regards

Stevo

i think it is the width of the tyre i.e. you can go 50% wider along with your 15mm taller

could be wrong

[nice1guv]

Okay, someone with different smarts to me , please explain this to me:



This is from QLD transport. Now for the D2, the placard states the following sizes:

215/75/16
235/70/16
255/65/16
255/55/18

So I have read about the 15mm rule.....what about the 1.5 times?? If someone can explain/ work it out for me, would be greatly appreciated,

Regards

Stevo

OK, I've read the QLD stuff, here's the answer:

15mm is for the total diameter of the wheel and tyre over the largest standard.

1.5 times is only for the width.

So D1 largest standard tyre is 235/70R16 = 735.4mm diameter:
QLD largest diameter is 15mm above 735.4mm = 750.4mm
QLD largest width is 1.5 times for live beam axle = 235mm x 1.5 = 352.5mm!

So this 1.5 times is asolute crap! What tyre comes in 350! and it still has to fit in the guards! and to keep the tyre diameter no larger than 15mm over standard you need a 350/49R16? what the? not likely!

1.5 times I don't think would ever apply to anyone!

[nice1guv]

I knew as soon as I hit send , I should have clarified....Marks...ie WhiteD3 was a typo as a D3 doesnt come with 16's,

Regards

Stevo

That's what I thought! but you never know, someone may have fitted 16's to it! would look really stupid though.

[Gullible]

Hi,
Check out the following posts

legal limit for tyres

We tried to sort this out at the beginning of the month....

[stevo68]

Ok Did a couple of comparo's


So from my understanding, I would be ok with the 245's but the 265's would breach the rules??

Stock Tire - 235/70R16 >Search Tires Tire 1 - 245/75R16 >Search Tires
Section Width:9.25 in 235 mm Section Width:9.64 in 245 mm


Rim Diameter:16 in 406.4 mm Rim Diameter:16 in 406.4 mm


Rim Width Range:6 - 7.5 in Rim Width Range:6.5 - 7.5 in


Overall Diameter:28.95 in 735.33 mm Overall Diameter:30.46 in 773.68 mm


Sidewall Height:6.47 in 164.33 mm Sidewall Height:7.23 in 183.64 mm


Radius:14.47 in 367.53 mm Radius:15.23 in 386.84 mm


Circumference:90.94 in 2309.8 mm Circumference:95.69 in 2430.5 mm


Revs per Mile:718.4 Revs per Mile:682.8


Actual Speed:60 mph100 km/h Speedometer1:57.0 mph95.0 km/h Speedometer Difference: -Speedometer


Difference: 5.213% too slow Diameter Difference: -Diameter Difference: 4.96%

Stock Tire - 255/65R16 >Search Tires Tire 1 - 265/75R16 >Search Tires
Section Width:10.03 in 255 mm Section Width:10.43 in 265 mm


Rim Diameter:16 in 406.4 mm Rim Diameter:16 in 406.4 mm


Rim Width Range:7 - 9 in Rim Width Range:7 - 8 in


Overall Diameter:29.05 in 737.87 mm Overall Diameter:31.64 in 803.65 mm


Sidewall Height:6.52 in 165.60 mm Sidewall Height:7.82 in 198.62 mm


Radius:14.52 in 368.80 mm Radius:15.82 in 401.82 mm


Circumference:91.26 in 2318.0 mm Circumference:99.39 in 2524.5 mm


Revs per Mile:716.0 Revs per Mile:657.3


Actual Speed:60 mph100 km/h Speedometer1:55.0 mph91.8 km/h Speedometer Difference: -Speedometer Difference: 8.930% too slow


Diameter Difference: -Diameter Difference: 8.19%


Edit...ok for Weeds, have tried to clean it up.......was in a better format on the site.....http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...bmit&reset=yes good site can compare upto 4 other tyres over stock,

Regards

Stevo

[weeds]

hey stevo...can you format that a bit better

[stevo68]

hey stevo...can you format that a bit better

Done

Regards

Stevo

[Slunnie]

Okay, someone with different smarts to me , please explain this to me:



This is from QLD transport. Now for the D2, the placard states the following sizes:

215/75/16
235/70/16
255/65/16
255/55/18

So I have read about the 15mm rule.....what about the 1.5 times?? If someone can explain/ work it out for me, would be greatly appreciated,

Regards

Stevo

Its 1.5x manufacturers max width.

You will be comstrained by other factors with the Discovery though, things like turning circle, uncovered tyres, rubbing etc. The max you will probably get out of a D2 will be maybe 305mm.

Where did you get the data from? Was it NCOP doc? If so, I would triple check that it has been adopted by QLD transport.

NCOP says:

The overall diameter of any tyre fitted to an off-road passenger vehicle or a commerical vehicle must not be more than 50mm larger or 26mm smaller that that of any tyre designated by the vehicle manufacturer of that model
~~~~
Tyres fitted to off-road passenger and commercial vehicles must not be more thatn 50% wider than vehicle manufacturers widest optional tyre.

but the NSW RTS for example say:

Wheels up to 26mm wider than the largest optional wheel recommended by the vehicle manufacturer for the
vehicle can be fitted without the need to notify the RTA.
The outside diameter of the wheel and tyre combination must be no more than 15mm over the largest diameter
wheel and tyre combination specified for the vehicle and not more than 15mm below the smallest diameter wheel

and tyre combination specified for the vehicle.

[stevo68]

ts 1.5x manufacturers max width.

You will be comstrained by other factors with the Discovery though, things like turning circle, uncovered tyres, rubbing etc. The max you will probably get out of a D2 will be maybe 305mm.

Where did you get the data from? Was it NCOP doc? If so, I would triple check that it has been adopted by QLD transport.

Whose NCOP and no it was from the QLD transport website. I want to go a 265/75 or a 245/75 at this stage and can't quite work out which one fits the guidelines.

Regards

Stevo

[Slunnie]

NCOP is the National code of Practice from the Department of Infrastructure,Transport, Regional Development

This is the NCOP page on steering and suspension:

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...g_3Feb2006.pdf