Corona Virus

**DiscoDB** · 20th November 2020, 09:46 PM

Only the vaccine will save America - good they have the best leading vaccine under trial at present so don’t expect any of it to be exported.

Hard to imagine a scenario that sees anything less than 10% of the population getting COVID in the US unless they can get the vaccine deployed very soon.

A work colleague lives in Montana and he could not explain why they had essentially little restrictions on what they could do when comparing with the approach taken in Victoria. Montana with a population of only 1 million now has close to double the cases of Australia and it is still climbing. That is a 5% infection rate and they have yet to hit the peak.

They now do have some restrictions but it is very relaxed compared to the Australian approach. It is more about what you “should” do. Montana is a strong Red State.

**JDNSW** · 21st November 2020, 05:57 AM

Have a look at North Dakota - deaths have reached one in a thousand, with known cases almost 10% of the population. With a population of only three quarters of a million, they are getting about 1300 new cases a day.

**rick130** · 21st November 2020, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Have a look at North Dakota - deaths have reached one in a thousand, with known cases almost 10% of the population. With a population of only three quarters of a million, they are getting about 1300 new cases a day.

And South Dakota is only slightly better, but according to the Governor they are doing fine

**Tombie** · 21st November 2020, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by rick130

And South Dakota is only slightly better, but according to the Governor they are doing fine

It all depends on your perspective.

**rick130** · 21st November 2020, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Tombie

It all depends on your perspective.

**4bee** · 21st November 2020, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Ha - ha.....you couldn’t make this stuff up......

Now that explains the long queues to be tested. That is a lot of people who took a delivery from this Pizza shop!

Sounds like Fat Pizza vs Housos.

I suspect their "Lucy in the sky..." Daily special was a doozy .

**superquag** · 21st November 2020, 02:31 PM

Two minor details:
The Standard American Diet since 1970's has now left up to 80% of population with 'Insulin Resistance' / 'Pre-diabetes, the worst possible co-morbidity for any 'flu virus, particularly this New & Improved Gain of Function one. (also T2 diabetes morphs into 'heart Disease', the other worst co-morbidity....)

other detail is.... what are they running their PCR cycles up to ? Over 20 and false positives become a problem, at 30= BIG worry, and over 35, well, nearly making something out of nothing. Yet the CDC has suggested up to 40 cycles. a.k.a 'cycle Threshold' or ct (CT?)
Too high and goats and tropical fruits test as POSITIVE.

Remember, it's heading back into winter up there in the hew -Hess of Hay, favourite Season of respiratory virus.

**vnx205** · 21st November 2020, 03:11 PM

Ontario doesn't seem to think there is a big problem with false positives.

As of August 15, 2020, PHO Laboratory detected possible false positive SARS-CoV-2 results onapproximately 30 occasions among over 850,000 specimens tested for COVID-19, with ~17,500(approximately 2%) specimens testing positive. This represents a false positivity rate of less than 0.01%(specificity of >99.99%), which is well beyond performance targets for a laboratory test, evenacknowledging there are likely to be some false positive tests that go undetected.

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...-pcr.pdf?la=en

I don't know how their technique compares with other places, but I have come across quite a few articles reporting very low rates of false positives. A lot of the unsubstantiated claims about high rates of false positives appear to be on sites that quite obviously have an agenda.

DiscoMick · 21st November 2020, 04:25 PM

Its depressing that the world pandemic still hasn't peaked and will keep rising well into next year.

**superquag** · 21st November 2020, 05:50 PM

Interesting how "others" perceive us & our responses to covid...

"...But now lockdown has become a way of life and government policy. Indeed, in some places it’s the only government policy (apart from not accepting responsibility for anything). In an astonishing development, it turns out South Australia’s instant overnight lockdown was triggered by a lie. A pizza restaurant worker claimed to have caught the virus after a single visit to the pizzeria, not mentioning that he worked there. State officials knew that another employee had tested positive and assumed the strain in question must be incredibly virulent if this young man had become infected after one visit. In a moment of frantic overreaction, the government of South Australia ordered an instant shutdown, throwing businesses back into turmoil and ensuring the masses would immediately pile into their cars to buy life-saving toilet paper in industrial quantities.

Wish that was the only lie being told in these "Interesting Times"

Would never happen here.... Wife has got 3 months supply of the finest Aussie-made 3-ply / double Length rolls in each bathroom....[biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]

Speaking of Australian made...and off-topic. Went to an iconic Replacement Engine Parts COmpany today, and among the bargains was a a plastic bucket, "Proudly made in AUSTRALIA" for $2. - Bought it on principle ! - Fed up with 99cent rubbish-quality buckets from a big green hardware store

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