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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    I think that is probably aptly described as misinformation, whether intended or not. The graph portrays road deaths, not drivers involved in fatal accidents. Older people are over-represented in road deaths for several reasons. They are more likely not to survive injuries; they are more likely to be killed as pedestrians because of slower movement and often poorer hearing.

    All the statistics I have seen show older drivers have far fewer accidents, including fatal accidents, than any other age group. The highest for both is 18-25.
    I thought we were discussing road fatalities?

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    Re.the truck driver, I see none of the charges against him appear to involve drugs, so that should end that speculation. His solicitor said he had suffered previous panic and anxiety attacks and an undiagnosed condition and needed psychiatric help while in custody, so I hope he gets it.

    The Porsche driver tested positive for cannabis and ice.

    Truck driver Mohinder Singh charged over Melbourne crash that killed four police officers

    Truck driver Mohinder Singh charged over Melbourne crash that killed four police officers | Australia news | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    Depends how you read 'Age'. Have a look at the 40-60 age group. Also look at the big spike from 60-74 to >75 ! I would think that per number of drivers in each age group, that's pretty bad.
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    Would need something showing the age of drivers involved in all crashes, not just the fatal ones, to get a proper result.

    Young drivers on NSW roads the most at risk, and the most dangerous - finder.com.au

    However even the age death figures show younger drivers die more than over 65 drivers.

    Road deaths by age group | National Road Safety Strategy

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    The killer dillers I see on th M1 are the wire cable x3 type, just right to separate a motor cyclist in a slide situation from his Left & Right torso beginning at the Crotch.
    They also bend inward a few metres if they get hit too. You want to be well back if you can. Work gives me the dubious privilege of working in the middle of the freeway cos they built a rail line there.

    The 40k slow down laws are good in principle but the application is often terrifying especially if not everyone's doing it. A few sting operations and you'd get enough publicity and fear to make people do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Re.the truck driver, I see none of the charges against him appear to involve drugs, so that should end that speculation. His solicitor said he had suffered previous panic and anxiety attacks and an undiagnosed condition and needed psychiatric help while in custody, so I hope he gets it.

    The Porsche driver tested positive for cannabis and ice.

    Truck driver Mohinder Singh charged over Melbourne crash that killed four police officers

    Truck driver Mohinder Singh charged over Melbourne crash that killed four police officers | Australia news | The Guardian
    If he was of unsound mind should he have been allowed to drive a heavy vehicle as it could be onsidered a risk to others, just asking?


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    Quote Originally Posted by admiralranga View Post
    They also bend inward a few metres if they get hit too. You want to be well back if you can. Work gives me the dubious privilege of working in the middle of the freeway cos they built a rail line there.

    The 40k slow down laws are good in principle but the application is often terrifying especially if not everyone's doing it. A few sting operations and you'd get enough publicity and fear to make people do it.

    An odd place to situate a railway Line. But then Com Rail & SAR had one or two down Port Pirie's EllenEllen St Port Pirie Railway.jpg street yonks back. The old Terminal Building still stands, a Museum now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares View Post
    If he was of unsound mind should he have been allowed to drive a heavy vehicle as it could be onsidered a risk to others, just asking?
    If he was over 70, in SA he would have needed a medical by a GP before he could renew his licence. I guess much the same in Vic & elsewhere?

    Edited 1700.

    I see he is only 45 but if he has those problems that are reported, then in SA he would deffo need a GP Assessment Report before renewing his licence. With that history it sounds like he shouldn't have been driving at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares View Post
    If he was of unsound mind should he have been allowed to drive a heavy vehicle as it could be onsidered a risk to others, just asking?
    NO.

    but that doesnt mean he didnt lie to the licensing mob. When I converted my HC over to WA license I needed a "full medical" done in under 3 minutes and most of that was in the waiting room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    NO.

    but that doesnt mean he didnt lie to the licensing mob. When I converted my HC over to WA license I needed a "full medical" done in under 3 minutes and most of that was in the waiting room.
    I had a hearing test done as part of the medical for my MC license which I thought was strange considering the amount of people I see driving cars with headphones on. - Not the single ear ones that come with a phone ,im talking full blown headphones like you used to see people wear on planes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    An odd place to situate a railway Line. But then Com Rail & SAR had one or two down Port Pirie's EllenEllen St Port Pirie Railway.jpg street yonks back. The old Terminal Building still stands, a Museum now.
    Qld. Rail did this years ago. The one I remember best was right down the street out of the station at Rockhampton. This was the main North Coast Line. Also the one out of the 'Gabba yards across Main Street and down Stanley Street where a shunter walked in front of the loco with a red flag and ringing a bell. Blue Line in Los Angeles from Downtown to Long Beach runs on streets most of the way and not piddly little commuter trains solely. Main Line UP & SP heavy freight trains in and out of Port of Long Beach.
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