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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed View Post
    So no Covid in Qld, SA, NT, WA, TAS, but everyone should follow Gladys' lead and then we should open the whole country up at effectively 56% vaccinated?
    Try reading the doherty report (or at least the summaries) and what they have said since and what the National Cabinet have agreed rather than carrying on like you have been.

    Maybe go and do a few maths courses to understand what the decisions actually mean. No one is saying anything about lifting some restrictions with only 56% vaccinated. It starts with 70% of eligible population over the age of 16. Despite agreements made in National Cabinets some State/Territory leaders have indicated that in addition to the National number they may or may not apply their own higher standard which is their call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Try reading the doherty report (or at least the summaries) and what they have said since and what the National Cabinet have agreed rather than carrying on like you have been.

    Maybe go and do a few maths courses to understand what the decisions actually mean. No one is saying anything about lifting some restrictions with only 56% vaccinated. It starts with 70% of eligible population over the age of 16. Despite agreements made in National Cabinets some State/Territory leaders have indicated that in addition to the National number they may or may not apply their own higher standard which is their call.
    70% of the "ELIGIBLE" population IS 56% of the "ACTUAL" population.
    The National cabinate is NOT in agrement with the 70% figure at all for obvious reasons.
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    Covid Mk ll

    Same model for Victoria:



    https://chrisbillington.net/COVID_VIC_2021.html

    For comparison - Victoria 2020:



    https://chrisbillington.net/COVID_VIC.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    The National cabinate is NOT in agrement with the 70% figure at all for obvious reasons.
    But all members of the National Cabinet did sign up and agree with the 70% figure. After they agreed, some are now walking away from the agreement because it does not now suit their own political purposes. If some members did not agree they should have had the strength of character not to have signed up and then walk away from the agreement. No one forced them to sign up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    But all members of the National Cabinet did sign up and agree with the 70% figure. After they agreed, some are now walking away from the agreement because it does not now suit their own political purposes. If some members did not agree they should have had the strength of character not to have signed up and then walk away from the agreement. No one forced them to sign up.
    Nothing political about it.
    They signed up when there was bugger all community transmissions, That has all now changed with the numbers about to skyrocket in NSW.
    Opening Covid free States to that amount of risk is foolhardy and many of the States/Territories are rightly reluctant to put their communites at risk at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    They signed up when there was bugger all community transmissions,
    Utter nonsense - the agreement was made 30 Jul when the current outbreak was well and truly under way with something like 300 cases a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Utter nonsense - the agreement was made 30 Jul when the current outbreak was well and truly under way with something like 300 cases a day.

    National Cabinet Statement | Prime Minister of Australia
    If you look at the graph above you will see there were about 250 cases in NSW when the National Cabinate agreed "In Principal" to this.
    NSW had 1290 new cases yesterday and these are on a rapidly upward trajectory so the entire outlook is totally differant to what it was 30 days ago.
    So my statement is NOT "Utter Nonsense" at all because 250 cases is bugger all compaired with 1290 new cases with many more yet to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    If you look at the graph above you will see there were about 250 cases in NSW when the National Cabinate agreed "In Principal" to this.
    NSW had 1290 new cases yesterday and these are on a rapidly upward trajectory so the entire outlook is totally differant to what it was 30 days ago.
    So my statement is NOT "Utter Nonsense" at all because 250 cases is bugger all compaired with 1290 new cases with many more yet to come.
    and the end of September 21 nsw projections i just saw are utterly horrendous

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    If you look at the graph above you will see there were about 250 cases in NSW when the National Cabinate agreed "In Principal" to this.
    NSW had 1290 new cases yesterday and these are on a rapidly upward trajectory so the entire outlook is totally differant to what it was 30 days ago.
    So my statement is NOT "Utter Nonsense" at all because 250 cases is bugger all compaired with 1290 new cases with many more yet to come.
    So when might be a good time for the sealed states to open up - 80% vaccinated, 90%, at some point there must be an opening of borders or we will see the scenario where the rest of the country is travelling internationally and fully open for business and state borders are still closed. I'm not sure that the population of those states would be so keen for isolation at that point in time.

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