Where's the Defender wave gone?

[landy]

Hi all,

I have noticed that fellow defender owners don't seem to be waving to each other as much as they did in the past. Especially puma owners, and the worst "offenders" were in Victoria. Come on guys, thats one of the things that set us apart from the others! who cares about Jap 4x4s. And discos-Dime a dozen. But Defenders, its like a club within a club. So come on guys lets get the rage back.

Any thoughts?

Nino.

[Bundalene]

We have a Puma and we ALWAYS wave at other Landrovers - Discos as well...It's a tradition.

Tinted windows make it a bit hard to see an "inside" wave, so we usually try & and give a BIG "outside" wave:D

[Beckford]

I wave at all Landrovers I see including Series, Countys, Defenders, Discoverys and Range Rovers..... and I am Puma Owner???

However, usually I only give the newer Range Rovers an index finger wave as they rarely wave back. I suspect a lot of the drivers of older model Range Rovers used to be Series or Defender owners as they give me a good wave?

If you do not get a wave from me it's because I haven't seen you, or the tinting my Defender came with is too dark.....

[krispe]

I wave at all Landrovers I see including Series, Countys, Defenders, Discoverys and Range Rovers..... and I am Puma Owner???

However, usually I only give the new Range Rovers an index finger wave as they rarely wave back. I suspect a lot of the drivers of older model Range Rovers used to be Series or Defender owners as they give me a good wave?

If you do not get a wave from me it's because I haven't seen you, or the tinting my Defender came with is too dark.....

As a new Puma owner, its not something I am used to doing, however I am starting to get in the swing. :)
Mind you, I don't always recognise a LR coming the other way sometimes, as either my mind is on other things, or I am on the phone. ;) (Bluetooth of course)

Kris

[Allan]

Always wave and I drive a Puma.

Allan

[Bundalene]

Know what you mean Kris. It is sometimes hard to wave to other Landrovers in the city - too busy concentrating on traffic etc. When you get out of the rush of city traffic it's better.

[juddy]

I have noticed a fair few 110/130 TDI3/5 not giving the wave, as i drive from the GC/BNE most days. There also the ones that use the same road everyday of the week. But i think its been like this for along time, not everyone who drivers a defender is a land rover addict.

[VK3UTE]

I love the wave:D keep them coming! I feel guilty if I miss one:angel:

[labrado]

Hi all,

I have noticed that fellow defender owners don't seem to be waving to each other as much as they did in the past. Especially puma owners, and the worst "offenders" were in Victoria. Come on guys, thats one of the things that set us apart from the others! who cares about Jap 4x4s. And discos-Dime a dozen. But Defenders, its like a club within a club. So come on guys lets get the rage back.

Any thoughts?

Nino.
Sometimes I can't differentiate a defender from a LC troopcarrier or an old nissan patrol. Shame on my eyes:rocket:. I always raise my palm or index finger once I confirmed it's defender.

[davidgate]

I love the wave:D keep them coming! I feel guilty if I miss one:angel:

Me too - this is my first Land Rover and PUMA - keep up the wave!:D
(It seems owners of new Discos and Range Rovers don't understand)

Dave G

[ATH]

The Cook always gives a wave to Defenders.... and we drive a Prado!!!!:o
It's a habit dating back to our Defender days.
AlanH.

[chook73]

I am a waiving Puma owner! :banana:

[Sue]

I always wave.. although sometimes the traffic is hectic or I don't spot the Defender until it's too late (then I feel guilty lol).. I don't always get a wave back though.. :o

[nugge t]

I am a waver and also feel guilty if I don't spot one or see it late. Enjoying being part of the club:)

[The ho har's]

I wave at every Land Rover:o the freelanders don't respond though, except for ausfree and Mrs inside;):D

I never have had a wave from the 2 RRS I pass every day, maybe they will get sick of me waving and wave back one day:)

I had one older guy in a 6 wheel drive defender drive past me for years, he never waved, he does now:D

ah well, I will keep the hand out the window and wave:D

So if you see a series III with a hand out the window it is me:D

Oh and for the record, I usually pass at least 3 to 4 Landys every day and I live in the back blocks:)

Mrs hh:angel:

[Sleepy]

and the worst "offenders" were in Victoria.

Probably noticed the QLD plates:p:wasntme:

You want to try waving from a 101. The usual reaction goes something like...



Is that guy waving at me:confused:?



What is that...:eek:



Oh, I see, its a Land Rover....wave back:spudnikwaving:....oops too late.:(

[chrisandebreg]

the older the landie the bigger the enthusist, the new one can be populated by said enthusist so keep trying, ive had 2 s3 swb,s but currently toying with a 94 softdash and living with a 01 disco

[DOD DEFENDER]

G,day All When i got my first land rover a Series III . I was told by the guy i got her off dont forget the Land Rover wave and i never have. That was when Disco 1 was the only disco i always wave . If i see you late and miss you i feel guilty too. Keep up the WAVE its a club in a club. I also get a lot of kids shotting at me Ex Army Defender

[sdt463]

Sometimes I can't differentiate a defender from a LC troopcarrier or an old nissan patrol. Shame on my eyes:rocket:. I always raise my palm or index finger once I confirmed it's defender.

Thats X2 Dave

[scanfor]

I wave at all Deafeners and older series. This action probably looks stupid sometimes when I'm driving an X-Trail, but I still do it out of habit.

[ugu80]

It's a hard core Defender (and series) wave, not a pampered Land Rover Discovery or, god forbid, snotty Range Rover wave. Still haven't decided whether it should include the 'Puma' brigade with their soft interiors and working air conditioning.

I call on all brothers (women, of course, aren't permitted to drive Defenders, except in dire emergencies) to man up and ignore all waves from those in touch with their female side in their comfy emasculated Discoveries and Range Rovers who stay dry in even torrential rain in their dust proof cabins. They know not the true pain behind 'the wave'.

Defenders snobs -- unite. Save the wave for those who deserve.

[flagg]

Yeah I get a lot of funny looks when I wave out of habbit when I'm driving the BMW or Barina.

[Drover]

We always wave at Series and D'fers.

Disco's and RRS not so much, but always keep a keen eye out for the others.

The wave is an important part of that special something that Defender's have - you have got own one to know:D

[Benny_IIA]

I think the reason for lack of Puma waves is becuase they are too busy waving at Transit Vans :wasntme:

And yes the wave is to say oo look and other person who is hot, half deaf and cramped but still has a big smile on his face... better give him a wave because no else understands.

[Hymie]

I wave to all and Sundry, the problem here is that a lot of Defenders are driven by Farmers, they tend not to be too enthusiastic about it all.

[deff1]

i am a little disappointed also i pass a lot of defenders where i drive and always give a wave but never receive one in return, some of them must think im strange they dont wave but i keep waving to them every time i see them:D

[kenleyfred]

It's a hard core Defender (and series) wave, not a pampered Land Rover Discovery or, god forbid, snotty Range Rover wave. Still haven't decided whether it should include the 'Puma' brigade with their soft interiors and working air conditioning.

I call on all brothers (women, of course, aren't permitted to drive Defenders, except in dire emergencies) to man up and ignore all waves from those in touch with their female side in their comfy emasculated Discoveries and Range Rovers who stay dry in even torrential rain in their dust proof cabins. They know not the true pain behind 'the wave'.

Defenders snobs -- unite. Save the wave for those who deserve.

I think women look really attractive driving a Defender. Some of them even wave.

[LOVEMYRANGIE]

It's a hard core Defender (and series) wave, not a pampered Land Rover Discovery or, god forbid, snotty Range Rover wave. Still haven't decided whether it should include the 'Puma' brigade with their soft interiors and working air conditioning.

I call on all brothers (women, of course, aren't permitted to drive Defenders, except in dire emergencies) to man up and ignore all waves from those in touch with their female side in their comfy emasculated Discoveries and Range Rovers who stay dry in even torrential rain in their dust proof cabins. They know not the true pain behind 'the wave'.

Defenders snobs -- unite. Save the wave for those who deserve.

I can't wait till you breakdown in the middle of nowhere and a fully sealed, soft snotty Disco or Rangy rolls up, realises who it is and converts from a 5 digit wave to a one digit signal! Then you will truly know the "pain" behind the wave!! :Rolling: :2up:


Using Capitals, the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse or helping your uncle jack off a horse...

[Barra1]

It is a changing landscape in the World of Land Rovers:(

(Possibly some would have preferred a :D rather than the :( to close the above sentence),

Nevertheless whether we want to admit or indeed even recognise the fact, ownership of Land Rovers has gone through significant changes especially since the arrival of the Puma.

Many owners of the Puma do not relate to the heritage of the Defender and event further, the heritage of the Series. Their vehicle is not a Defender in their minds (or speak) for it is a Puma.

Sometimes when a wave is not returned I imagine the thoughts of the offending driver (Puma driver - and there you are - even in this text I have differentiated between Defender and Puma) saying: Oh dear that is one of those old Defender things, how glad I am that I drive a Puma.

Of course this does not refer to anyone on this site for the owners of the latest Defender on this site have all become Defender Tragics and as members of AULRO declare their allegiance to all things Defender whether TDI, TD5, Puma 2.4 or Puma 2.2.

Further to my thoughts, I believe a change to the ownership-style of older Defenders, County's and Series vehicles has occurred. Younger people, recognising the capabilities of the vehicle but also the "cool factor" are purchasing these vehicles. In addition, pricing is an influencing factor - for example a damned good Disco 1 is a lot cheaper than the same year model of just about any Toyota (I know I used the example of Disco but just illustrating the changing world).

These people do not have any affiliation or the passion that we have. Hopefully they will but until then we are responsible to keep the wave alive.

Dare I say if my theory is correct, the "changing landscape" is a result of firstly, the Puma taking Land Rover into or somewhere near modern times. Jeez, air-conditioning that works, a non-trucklike gearbox and a radio which is not super-glued to maximum volume just so the occupants can hear a song or two:)

The older vehicles? Testament to the longevity of the Defender/Series/County - I just hope it never becomes ultra-cool to be in a Land Rover Series or Defender. :(

Imagine yuppies, cashed-up footballers and the like all cruisin around town in a Series (metallic paint job, 24 inch wheels etc).

Keep the wave alive? To own a Defender - past or present version - the prospective owner should need to apply and pass a blood test as to whether they qualify to own such a vehicle:D

And of course, undergo a 5 day Induction Course - The Land Rover Wave;)

[Col.Coleman]

I get annoyed when I am not driving my Defender or Series and see a waving opportunity. How I wish for a cloaking device, to magically transform the wife's Subaru, or my work truck into Landy so I can wave.

It makes me feel bad. To date I have initiated 2,376,311 waves with a return rate of 82%. In the event I haven't initiated the wave, my return rate is 97.63%.

I have noticed the return rate of initiated waves deminishing in the last couple of years. I will have to do the study on whether this is an across the board trend or specifically related to me.

CC

[Barra1]

I call on all brothers (women, of course, aren't permitted to drive Defenders, except in dire emergencies) to man up and ignore all waves from those in touch with their female side in their comfy emasculated Discoveries and Range Rovers who stay dry in even torrential rain in their dust proof cabins. They know not the true pain behind 'the wave'.

Defenders snobs -- unite. Save the wave for those who deserve.

Surely, surely you joke:o

Is there a sexier, more alluring, attention grabbing or simply, beautiful sight than a woman driving a Defender.:D

Even a woman of average physical attibutes immediately becomes a 10 when she ever so gracefully climbs into the driver's seat of a Defender:D

And I dare you to tell Diana, Lou, Mrs Ho Har (shall I go on) that they should only drive in dire circumstances:eek:

[Col.Coleman]

And I dare you to tell Diana, Lou, Mrs Ho Har (shall I go on) that they should only drive in dire circumstances:eek:

Interesting choice of 10's:wasntme:


Oh , OK then. 10.5's, cause they drive series vehicles too. Defenders are Lady Boy cars compared with a series:p

Will have to do a scale up.

CC

[Beckford]

not everyone who drivers a defender is a land rover addict.

I have only been a Puma owner for just over 12 months. Before that I had a stage 1 ute on loan for a couple of years. I was told in no uncertin terms the first time I drove it, "you must wave to all Landrovers".

My addiction didn't take hold until my first trip "medium" off roading in my Puma. I have been hooked since..... Maybe those Defender drivers do not know what their Defender can do yet?

[Bundalene]

Surely, surely you joke:o

Is there a sexier, more alluring, attention grabbing or simply, beautiful sight than a woman driving a Defender.:D

Even a woman of average physical attibutes immediately becomes a 10 when she ever so gracefully climbs into the driver's seat of a Defender:D

And I dare you to tell Diana, Lou, Mrs Ho Har (shall I go on) that they should only drive in dire circumstances:eek:


Thanks for your comment Barra1:D

Wait till my missus reads that comment from ugu80!:mad:

She is a most capable Landrover Defender & Defender Puma driver ....AND she ALWAYS waves at all Landrovers - Discos included. And, I might add, she has been driving our Landrovers - for over 30 years. We only have Defenders right now so she can pick either one when she needs to go out somewhere.

I suspect ugu80 will wear the wrath of Mrs Ho Har, Diana & Lou - and quite a few more.

[Beckford]

I call on all brothers (women, of course, aren't permitted to drive Defenders, except in dire emergencies) to man up and ignore all waves from those in touch with their female side in their comfy emasculated Discoveries and Range Rovers who stay dry in even torrential rain in their dust proof cabins.

Best not show this post to the SWMBO, who is a Defender driver.....

Lots of women enjoy driving Defenders as they can see out the window, due to the excellent driving position.

The SWMBO's mum drove a Series III all the way around Australia. Why? Because the SWMBO's Dad drove the second Series III in convoy all the way around Australia.....

[Bundalene]

Our daughter also drives a Defender 130 in Arnhem Land and has been driving Defenders up there since 2004. You wouldn't believe some of the tracks and mud bogs she has to negotiate when they go camping/fishing/shopping - and she manages very well. She also carries out all the routine maintenance to her 130 as well.

I know also that dmdigital (Derek's) wife drives their Defenders as her daily drive to and from work in Nhulunbuy.

So, there are plenty of very capable lady Defender drivers out there!!

[ugu80]

I can't wait till you breakdown in the middle of nowhere and a fully sealed, soft snotty Disco or Rangy rolls up, realises who it is and converts from a 5 digit wave to a one digit signal! Then you will truly know the "pain" behind the wave!! :Rolling: :2up:


Point 1. A Defender will always get you home.

Point 2. You do realise the 'middle of nowhere' is not the car park at the school old boys rugby union match.:twisted:

[The ho har's]

Probably noticed the QLD plates:p:wasntme:

You want to try waving from a 101. The usual reaction goes something like...



Is that guy waving at me:confused:?



What is that...:eek:



Oh, I see, its a Land Rover....wave back:spudnikwaving:....oops too late.:(


Yep we get the same when driving 'herc':angel:...see how we go on our 800k

return trip next week, though we will be travelling with other land rovers so

quite possible we will get waves:D

Mrs hh:angel:

[The ho har's]

It's a hard core Defender (and series) wave, not a pampered Land Rover Discovery or, god forbid, snotty Range Rover wave. Still haven't decided whether it should include the 'Puma' brigade with their soft interiors and working air conditioning.

I call on all brothers (women, of course, aren't permitted to drive Defenders, except in dire emergencies) to man up and ignore all waves from those in touch with their female side in their comfy emasculated Discoveries and Range Rovers who stay dry in even torrential rain in their dust proof cabins. They know not the true pain behind 'the wave'.

Defenders snobs -- unite. Save the wave for those who deserve.


I will say this in the nicest possible way:)





How dare you say that:mad::nazilock:

You have a LOT to learn my not good friend.....I can tell you we Woman can

drive series and defenders and come to that 101's better than some of you

still in the dark age men who treat women beneath them:mad:


come on girls let's tell him....

Mrs hh...Daily driver a series 3..Defender and Foward control 101 VERY often

[The ho har's]

Point 1. A Defender will always get you home.

Point 2. You do realise the 'middle of nowhere' is not the car park at the school old boys rugby union match.:twisted:


If you do break down I can assure you I will not stop to help, I don't do rugby and I live well away from a city..

BTW look at the signature, do you see a disco or RR there.

Mrs hh.

[ugu80]

Its good women drive Defenders, you can tell people the dents are from going offroad.


What's the difference between a wife and girlfriend?
About 25kgs.

What's the difference between a husband and a boyfriend?
About 30 minutes.

Know why Santa is jolly?
He knows where the bad girls are.

Why can't women find sensitive, caring & good looking men?
They already have boyfriends.

Why does Mike Tyson cry during sex?
Pepper spray always does that to him.

What's the difference between women and a battery?
Batteries have a positive side.

Do married men live longer, or does it just seem like it.

How do you get a sweet 80 year old granny to say the # word?
Yell 'bingo'.

My girlfriend thinks I'm a stalker, she just doesn't know she's my girlfriend yet.

Helped a poor girl who fell down today. At least I think she was poor, she only had $1.20.

I don't know why I'm the way I am. I think its because I was born an only twin.

[Bundalene]

I think maybe this thread has veered off-course somewhat!

Can we please get back to the original subject - The Defender Wave

[Sleepy]

Can we please get back to the original subject - The Defender Wave


Nah, I'm enjoying this. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/01/568.jpg

[Quarks]

Ok.
I had a 100% success rate with waves coming back from the south coast earlier this week. And, thanks to AULRO, I knew half of the people I waved to as well! (admittedly Mulgo's 130 is rather noticeable - even at 90k's on a multi lane highway).

:)

[Beckford]

I don't know why I'm the way I am. I think its because I was born an only twin.

Does that mean you have 2 heads?


Sorry back on subject;

When overtaking, or being overtaken by a Landrover I attempt the sideways wave.

What is the correct waving technique in this situation?

[tonic]

42758

You have to start them young:)

[ugu80]

Does that mean you have 2 heads?

No. Its that I used to be schizophrenic; and so was I.

Mayhem, confusion and offence. My job here is done.

[Drover]

Went for a look at camping spot about 40k's north of Gloucester NSW, about a 400k return trip.

Passed 5 D'fer - waved to all - 5 returned the wave - 100% success...It was good day indeed.:D

[Sue]

I call on all brothers (women, of course, aren't permitted to drive Defenders, except in dire emergencies) to man up and ignore all waves from those in touch with their female side in their comfy emasculated Discoveries and Range Rovers who stay dry in even torrential rain in their dust proof cabins. They know not the true pain behind 'the wave'.



As I read this my eyes rolled so far up into my head that they've gone all the way around and now I have a headache.. which I am holding you personally responsible for.. *nods*..

Seriously of course women drive Defenders.. and why wouldn't we? I chose to own a Defender because I am like so many of you (men and women) who are Landy enthusiasts.. yes my Landy has working aircon (if you could call the pitiful amount of coolish air that radiates from the small vents air con) and yes it drops oil (about to go back to have the rear pinion seal replaced for the third time in as many months) and yes she leaks on occasion.. but I love her anyways..

and no contrary to popular belief I don't keep her on the black top and I didn't buy it to 'look cool' while taking kids to school and shopping etc, I bought it for 4WDing (the scratches and torn mud flap etc is proof of that) and for use as a tow vehicle..

(If I were saying this outloud, my voice would be fluctuating a lot, and cocking my head in the sort of ****ed-of-Puerto-Rican-woman side-to-side motion.)...

and yes I wave.. and will proudly continue to do so.. (whether you wave back or not).. :)

[Sleepy]

You go girl!

[dullbird]

aaawwwwww come on guys leave Ugu alone he was obviously bullied as a child..(by girls :p)..hahahahahah

and for the record I wave!!!................... out of my Toyota that makes me even more hardcore.:D

[cewilson]

It's funny you mention the Toyota. People must be getting used to us being up here now, as they're even waving when we're in the 90 series Prado :)

[ugu80]

You all do know that only female mosquitos bite.

Now I'm going to my shed for the day and sulk.

[wagoo]

The Defender waves are still very much in evidence and can be easily seen on models with darker glossier paint finish, like Defender Xtreams for example.
Waves everywhere, and not a flat surface to be seen.;)
Bill.

[weeds]

Waved twice yesterday and received two on return........

[ugu80]

I think the wave, after a while, becomes automatic (no, I'm not being flippant this time). When I'm enjoying a nice ride on the motorised bicycle I find I just give the defender wave without thinking. The first clue that I'm on a motor cycle is when I look to see if there is a return wave and just get a strange, confused look instead.

[goingbush]

Its not just Defender drivers that wave to each other, if your towing a caravan almost every other driver towing a caravan waves, no mater what they are driving. When I was in my BJ40 I always waved at other 40 series drivers due to the LandRover habit & got about a 50% return rate.

[ezyrama]

Its that I used to be schizophrenic; and so was I.

Schizophrenia, It beats dining alone!
My doctor cured my schizophrenia, but now where am I when I need me?

I always get and give the wave when driving Smeg, and I even wave when I am on the motorbike (should put a Landrover badge on it), I used to own a minimoke and the wave came with the territory. Hopefully the tint on the new Deefer wont be too dark or I might have to get used to driving with the window down.

Cheers Ian

[Ranga]

if your towing a caravan almost every other driver towing a caravan waves, no mater what they are driving

Not true. I get about 50% return when towing the van.

Sent from the dodgy keyboard on my phone via Tapatalk

[Sue]

You all do know that only female mosquitos bite.

Now I'm going to my shed for the day and sulk.

Yes.. and Black Widow Spiders kill..

Just saying.. :p



Not true. I get about 50% return when towing the van.

Sent from the dodgy keyboard on my phone via Tapatalk

It depends where you are when you wave.. out of the cities nearly all caravaners wave.. but in cities nearly no one will.. (maybe they are concentrating on traffic?).. I've heard stories about one caravaner getting around with a smiley face painted on a ping pong bat that he holds up as other caravans go past.. and there is even a small book out about the caravan wave.. :)

[rick130]

Wave early, wave often.










:D

[goingbush]

Not true. I get about 50% return when towing the van.

Sent from the dodgy keyboard on my phone via Tapatalk

I stand corrected

You are right of course, Its is the case on our long trips away from home, but when we return & approach to within an hour or so toward the big smoke the wave goes out the window.

Where the Defender wave just won't go away.

[krispe]

I would have waved at the 110 SW at the Domain today near the Art Gallery but it was parked.
It did stand out though, with its "AULRO" number plate.

Kris :cool:

[Quarks]

Wave early, wave often.










:D

Where have I heard that before? :p:p

[rick130]

Where have I heard that before? :p:p

Cool sig Geoff :D

[The ho har's]

I would have waved at the 110 SW at the Domain today near the Art Gallery but it was parked.
It did stand out though, with its "AULRO" number plate.

Kris :cool:

That would be one_iota, Mahn:D


Mrs hh:angel:

[jimb]

The other day I was driving saw 2 defenders gave a wave, got one back. Remainder of trip I felt great. The wave gives me something special.

and on the lady drivers. Completely agree Chicks in Defenders Rock.


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I am here: Google Maps

[TeamFA]

I think the wave, after a while, becomes automatic (no, I'm not being flippant this time). When I'm enjoying a nice ride on the motorised bicycle I find I just give the defender wave without thinking. The first clue that I'm on a motor cycle is when I look to see if there is a return wave and just get a strange, confused look instead.

Ha! I give the wave or a thumbs-up to Defenders nearly every day while commuting on the Buell... I know what you mean.

But on our New Year's trip (5000 kms in 3 weeks), every Defender we saw waved back at us...

[tyne]

I just drove from Sydney to Port Douglas and got many waves in return at 1 stage I even got waves from the back seat. Puts a smile on your face:D:D

[Evil90]

It took a little while to start looking for LR's as I used to be a Jeeper (waits for flame)... But as a new Puma owner I take great pleasure in waving at fellow LR owners! I even got a very enthusiastic wave one morning from a series on the way to work... It made my day!

[rick130]

It took a little while to start looking for LR's as I used to be a Jeeper (waits for flame)... But as a new Puma owner I take great pleasure in waving at fellow LR owners! I even got a very enthusiastic wave one morning from a series on the way to work... It made my day!

Nothing wrong with Jeep's ;)

My first car was a CJ-6 in 1983 and when I was a little tacker the family car was a Wagoneer, so I was well schooled in 'the wave' as there weren't that many Jeeps back in the seventies and into the eighties.

[Sleepy]

I can't help but think we are a little "up ourselves" with this wave business.


I used to drive an BJ40 Cruiser - waved at others
I used to drive a Subaru Brumby - waved at others
I also drove a Lada Niva - waved at others (a mutual sympathy thing going on there :angel:)

Ok, no-one waves back at my Magna!:D




Newsbreak: Weird middle aged guy seen in Melbourne waving randomly at other road users!

[rick130]

I can't help but think we are a little "up ourselves" with this wave business.


I used to drive an BJ40 Cruiser - waved at others
I used to drive a Subaru Brumby - waved at others
I also drove a Lada Niva - waved at others (a mutual sympathy thing going on there :angel:)


Ok, no-one waves back at my Magna!:D




Newsbreak: Weird middle aged guy seen in Melbourne waving randomly at other road users!


Here in the bush, everyone waves, if you're a local :D

[dullbird]

I can't help but think we are a little "up ourselves" with this wave business.


I used to drive an BJ40 Cruiser - waved at others
I used to drive a Subaru Brumby - waved at others
I also drove a Lada Niva - waved at others (a mutual sympathy thing going on there :angel:)


Ok, no-one waves back at my Magna!:D




Newsbreak: Weird middle aged guy seen in Melbourne waving randomly at other road users!



Lets not forget thought that the Land Rover wave is international.;)

[OrangeZXr10R]

I wave whenever I see a deefer or a series, always get a return wave.

[Sleepy]

Here in the bush, everyone waves, if you're a local :D

And if you're not, they play banjo music.:p...............:eek2:

[Didge]

This looks like a wave party - just mssing the loud music, lights and drugs but we've got loud motors, headlights and oil on the drive.
I too always wave and feel guilty if I miss one; the Minister of War thinks its all a bit childish and just laughs to herself but then again she drives a rav4
BTW, I was coming out of the bottlo at Woolies this evening and this kid about 11 - 12 was with his old man and they were parked behind me. As the kid walks past Boofy, my 96 Def he says "Dad, I like these cars, can we get one of these?" haha had to chuckle to myself (his old man was driving a ford ranger erruggghhh!)

[rick130]

And if your not, they play banjo music.:p...............:eek2:

and then we see if you squeeeeel, like a little piggy..... oops :angel:

[ugu80]

STOP THE WAVE - NOW!

Driving is far too serious a business to be distracted by infantile travel games, like punch buggy or look for the Land Rover. You people are in charge of two to three tonnes of potential death. All this waving taking attention from the road is no different from texting on those instruments of satan, the mobile phone. Research should be done to see how synonomous is waving with drink driving and I shall be writing to the Roads and Potholes Minister to suggest a government grant to some researcher with sufficient funding to confirm the danger. It should be illegal - $300 and 3 points for the offence of 'Wave at Land Rover'.:nazilock:

Are Land Rover drivers made so insecure by the denigration of Japanese four wheel drivers as to the unreliability, oil leaks and expense of owning that they require constant validation of their ownership in primitive tribalistic displays of unity.

My posts on this subject have nothing to do with me having been stuck at home after hip replacement surgery and having far too much time on my hands.:wheelchair:

[rick130]

STOP THE WAVE - NOW!

[snip]

Are Land Rover drivers made so insecure by the denigration of Japanese four wheel drivers as to the unreliability, oil leaks and expense of owning that they require constant validation of their ownership in primitive tribalistic displays of unity.

[snip]

No, I think SWMBO (a Nissan Patrol driver) is right when she reckons we only wave to verify someone will stop and rescue us, or at the least offer commiserations when our conveyances break down :angel:

[rick130]

STOP THE WAVE - NOW!

[snip]

My posts on this subject have nothing to do with me having been stuck at home after hip replacement surgery and having far too much time on my hands.:wheelchair:

and here I was thinking it's just Grumpy Old Man Syndrome :D

[Reindeer831]

Went for my first drive in my 90 earlier (just attached the number plates this morning!), and passed another Defender - we gave each other a nod and a wave :D

[ugu80]

Welcome to the club.:ehigh5:

[Shoogs]

well and truly alive and well over here in Zambia...

[land864]

Nah , it's still alive and well.

Waved at a 130 heading the other way , across 3 lanes of traffic and a huge median strip this arvo.
We were in the very hot/warm County heading south on the Princes just after Traralgon.

The wife said " Who was that "

" Another Defender/County owner " I said

"Do you know them "

" I don't have to " I qualified :)

[newhue]

No, I think SWMBO (a Nissan Patrol driver) is right when she reckons we only wave to verify someone will stop and rescue us, or at the least offer commiserations when our conveyances break down :angel:

This must be the official Nissan view, I have herd this several times. Must be tuff believing you have the best 4x4 and non of your mates have any soul.

It's not just the wave, how often have you been approached by a total stranger who asks "is that your landy" as you stand next to it. You reply yeh, and within seconds you have an old mate to talk to for hours.:BigThumb:

[muddys1]

I too always wave, has taken my wife a while to understand, but when she was driving and a fellow fender driver waved at here one day she changed here ways :), even my little bloke spots from his booster seat just incase i'm busy doing something else like snoozing at the wheel :eek:
which i can assure you doesnt happen often:p

cheers
muddy

[Bournie]

Always try to get a wave in!

[Recy Mech]

Aaaah......takes me back when I/we (girlfriend/wife) owned a trusty ol' series III 'shorty' and the waves, I think the cook got more of a buzz out of the wave than I did.

Now, do I tell my daughter, she's buying a 90, about the wave or let her find out and wonder what's with the wave?

[Jitterbug]

I dont get anywhere near the number of waves in my 90 as I did in my old 110 and it makes me sad!

I guess it is because the 90 (1985 so neither series nor defender) doesnt look as obviously a landrover, metalic blue, tubular winch bumper etc and I have the roof off 95% of the time, whereas the tdi 110 was a lot more standard and white with the defender stripe up the side.

Here is a picture so people know what to look out for (Brisbane). I want to come back from the lonely world of unreturned waves!

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/03/817.jpg

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Just to be clear about it, I have never done the Defender wave!

I have done: The 80" Land Rover wave!
The 88" Land Rover wave!
The 109" Land Rover wave!
The 109" Station Wagon Land Rover Wave!
The 109" FFR Land Rover wave!
The Range Rover 2 door wave!
The Range Rover 4 door classic wave!
and even the Perentie Land Rover wave!
I have waved at a Defender/s!But until I get the 6x6 running I'll stick to Land Rover waves! :angel:

[Sue]

Now, do I tell my daughter, she's buying a 90, about the wave or let her find out and wonder what's with the wave?

You'll definitely have to tell her.. many of the guys are a little hesitant to wave at the ladies driving Defenders for some reason.. and we need more women out there waving to show the boys that we also understand the 'wave'. :)



I dont get anywhere near the number of waves in my 90 as I did in my old 110 and it makes me sad!

I guess it is because the 90 (1985 so neither series nor defender) doesnt look as obviously a landrover, metalic blue, tubular winch bumper etc and I have the roof off 95% of the time, whereas the tdi 110 was a lot more standard and white with the defender stripe up the side.

Here is a picture so people know what to look out for (Brisbane). I want to come back from the lonely world of unreturned waves!



Funny you mention that.. I swore I saw you on the hwy a week or so ago and when I waved I didn't get one in return.. (to be fair you probably didn't see me though lol).. :)

[uninformed]

Ill tell you where its gone, its stuck in the bloody garage while I try to fix the bastard.........

[Jitterbug]

Funny you mention that.. I swore I saw you on the hwy a week or so ago and when I waved I didn't get one in return.. (to be fair you probably didn't see me though lol).. :)

sorry about that sue! I will keep my eyes peeled for you. Big fan of your 90, just need to loose the roof :) I think I might have seen it parked up in bulimba a couple of weeks ago...

[Chops]

Driving up to meet the boys last weekend, I passed a Defender with a woman driving,, she was just as eager as me to wave,,, was one cool moment,,:cool:A chick driving a rigged up Defer,,yesss

[Sue]

sorry about that sue! I will keep my eyes peeled for you. Big fan of your 90, just need to loose the roof :) I think I might have seen it parked up in bulimba a couple of weeks ago...

No problems.. I know I also miss seeing some at times too.. (especially in traffic). Wasn't me at Bulimba though.. but I know there is another one like mine getting around Brissie too in the Mnt Gravatt area so it might have been him.. will keep my eye's peeled for you too! :)

Oh and the roof stays lol.... :o

[newhue]

yeh there is something appealing about chicks in Defenders. I get a wave from a yummy mummy in a 110 some mornings as I go by the local school.

On another note, I let the team down the other day. I was made aware I missed a wave from an oncoming 130, I was busy talking series 1's with Zulu Delta on the way to get the 107 registered, and didn't realise a thing.

:spudnikwaving:

[The ho har's]

yeh there is something appealing about chicks in Defenders. I get a wave from a yummy mummy in a 110 some mornings as I go by the local school.

On another note, I let the team down the other day. I was made aware I missed a wave from an oncoming 130, I was busy talking series 1's with Zulu Delta on the way to get the 107 registered, and didn't realise a thing.

:spudnikwaving:

just as well we waved :D or he might have been a little anoyed not getting a wave from the both of us:o

Mrs hh:angel:

[Sleepy]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/02/1354.jpg


The D3/D4/RRS Wave:wasntme:

(Well Tombie would have liked it;))

[Beckford]

Passed a white Defender on the Castlereagh Highway between Ilford and Mudgee yesterday afternoon. No return wave :(

[Tikirocker]

Xmas 2010 the wife and I ran the County up to Qld and back from Sydney and got plenty of waves from Series, Deefers, Disco's but none from the late model Range Rover owners ... I think I know why. :wasntme:

Simon.

[110 Pete]

Yesterday, on the 2nd day of owner ship (of a defender a year older than me) I had 2 waves from different defender drives so of course I waved back. Its such a cool thing how we can recognise each other nutiness :angel: without even knowing them.

Cheers

Pete

[Recy Mech]

Xmas 2010 the wife and I ran the County up to Qld and back from Sydney and got plenty of waves from Series, Deefers, Disco's but none from the late model Range Rover owners ... I think I know why. :wasntme:

Simon.

Why? :lol2:

[ugu80]

Taking a friend on his first 4WD experience (thus also his first Defender experience) tomorrow to Newnes then Capertee and along the Turon River. After extolling the Defender wave to him, if we see a Defender and don't get a wave back, it's gong to be most embarrassing. So anyone on GWH tomorrow, be on your toes. Defender wave honour is at stake.

[Beckford]

Taking a friend on his first 4WD experience (thus also his first Defender experience) tomorrow to Newnes then Capertee and along the Turon River. After extolling the Defender wave to him, if we see a Defender and don't get a wave back, it's gong to be most embarrassing. So anyone on GWH tomorrow, be on your toes. Defender wave honour is at stake.

Crossed the Turon River while on the Hill End side of the Bridle track on Sunday.

There is a fair bit of water going down it at the moment.

[Bushranger]

There's a Disco driver here in Darwin that waves at me. I never know what to do so I pretend to not have eye contact with them and fiddle with the radio or slip under the dashes line of sight if conditions suit.

Sorry Discos and RR are rapid departues from a true Rover an they do not qualify. It's rather simple actually. :twisted:

[ugu80]

Don't worry about Discos and RR, my mate wants to know if the Defender wave should now include the Tata.

[Bardizzo]

If it has a green oval on it I wave.

[Recy Mech]

I'm looking forward to 'the wave'. Now, just have to prise the keys from my daughters fingers, that and avoid any contact with the missus and I'll be driving up and down the highways just to wave again. :D

[Tikirocker]

Why? :lol2:

Cause many of them are shopping carts for the Victoria Beckham types ... they wouldn't have a clue why anybody was waving at them. In any case, we don't want to encourage them, cause the only wave we'll likely see from em is like the Queens wave! :p

Simon.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

... Sorry Discos and RR are rapid departues from a true Rover an they do not qualify. It's rather simple actually. :twisted:Hang on, without the Range Rover (classic shape) there would have been no coil sprung 90s, 110s and Defenders, you should be excommunicated from the LR community if you don't wave back at a classic! :o

[Tikirocker]

I would also add that the Camel Trophy is about as Land Rover as you can get ... ;)

[Bushranger]

Hang on, without the Range Rover (classic shape) there would have been no coil sprung 90s, 110s and Defenders, you should be excommunicated from the LR community if you don't wave back at a classic! :o


Classics are rather cool. We have an original LR spare wheel and twin jerry can holder from a classic. It mounts to the hitch receiver. And yeah, I hadn't thought about the evolution to coils.

Okay, I shall endeavor to put in a better effort and acknowledge my LR Kith n' Kin. :)

[roley18]

The 'wave' was a very important skill to master when the lad was learning to drive our Defender. That and double clutching.

He's picked it up very well, now I've challenged him to do both at the same time where possible :-)

[Davender]

I just spent a week in Perth and every Defender I past either waved, beeped or did both - I of course did the same, so the wave is alive and well on the west coast and whats better is that ive only had it for 3 weeks and a nice fella down the road keeps dropping off free spares and other stuff for me so I must go catch up with him for a beer :D

[Beckford]

Cause many of them are shopping carts for the Victoria Beckham types ... they wouldn't have a clue why anybody was waving at them. In any case, we don't want to encourage them, cause the only wave we'll likely see from em is like the Queens wave! :p

Simon.

I had to pick up a fish tank after work from the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney last night. (long story) Anyway.....

Passed lots and lots of brand new Discoveries throughout the Northern and Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. None of them waved. :mad:

Got a wave from a Defender in Chatswood and passed another Defender near the Randwick Racecourse. :) (attempted the side wave)

[rick130]

I had to pick up a fish tank after work from the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney last night. (long story) Anyway.....

Passed lots and lots of brand new Discoveries throughout the Northern and Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. None of them waved. :mad:

Got a wave from a Defender in Chatswood and passed another Defender near the Randwick Racecourse. :) (attempted the side wave)

and you are surprised ?

I do have a Disco IV from the Eastern Suburbs wave to me, but only as I know them as they have a country house/gallery here :D

It certainly isn't a Land Rover thing.

[newhue]

Around here the Disco 3 and 4's mostly have mums dropping there kids off at the various private schools. You barely get a look, definitely not a smile, and never a wave. I think they wouldn't have any idea that a Defender is made by the same manufacturer.
I only bother with Series and Defers, the rest might have there own thing perhaps, but the score rate was so low for Discos and RR I gave up.

[Geezer]

What goes around, comes around!

If someone is gracious to wave at me, I wave back, regardless of what they ride/drive, its simple manners. And no I'm not a hippy or country boy from the the bush, I'm a city slicker, go figure!!!

[Loubrey]

Fact of the matter up here in the Pilbara is that outside the major towns everybody waves at each other, regardless of brand and even if it's just the index finger off the steering wheel in greeting.

Passing a Defender therefore requires a bit of extra hanging out the window, waving and thumbs up gestures!:D

The upside of living up here is that almost all of the guys on the forum knows each other's vehicles around town!

[GEK064]

This thread has changed my behavior a little....when I used to ride my bike in Europe I use to wave at all bikes and they waved back. When I came back home I'd wave but nobody waved back so I stopped. When I bought my D2 five years ago I started to wave....but nobody waved back :-( ......so was happy to read about the defender wave :-) This morning i drove past a D1 on northern road and thought I'll wave to see what happens... and he waved back!?...I wonder if he too is getting a defender?

[rainman]

I find the "wave return rate" quite good - I'd say somewhere around 90 - 95%.

In fact, it's basically a pre-requisite for cars I buy; if you see another car of that type/model you wave. Currently the only non-Land Rover is a Smart Roadster (only 400 in Australia so it's an "event" to see another), but previously the likes of MG, Austin-Healey, E30 BMW, Datsun 1600, etc.

James.

[goingbush]

Ha I just found this explanation
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/06/1216.jpg

The LandyCam might be a handy wave research tool.

Nice return wave yesterday , not sure the British Standard LandRover waves apply in Oz as the thumb extension may be a local variation.

http://goingbush.com/landy/LRWave1.jpg

[Judo]

It's a match for me. I'm a regular LR driver under 40. :)

[SimonM]

I passed by two other 130's in Taree today within 5 minutes of each other. One was a little far away so probably didnt see my wave but the other certainly must have seem my wave and no return :mad:.

[Chops]

A couple of weeks ago, I had 3 waves from 2 Pumas and a County (?),, all on I think Cantabury Rd,, then another wave from a black Puma later in the day down on the Princes Hwy/Blackburn rd intersection, being driven by a woman too :D

[SimonM]

I must say that todays non-wave overshadowed the wave from a series 3 earlier this morning :)

[D9Oh..]

I got a wave today on the way to ledge point (WA), look forward to them and even the wife noticed today. I have a brand new puma 90 and I enjoy the wave tradition.:)

[dullbird]

A couple of weeks ago, I had 3 waves from 2 Pumas and a County (?),, all on I think Cantabury Rd,, then another wave from a black Puma later in the day down on the Princes Hwy/Blackburn rd intersection, being driven by a woman too :D

wasnt a dark green puma was it on canterbury...:)

[Chops]

wasnt a dark green puma was it on canterbury...:)

No, one was a Blue (?) from memory 90, and I'm fairly sure the other was the Dark Grey,, the County was White/Cream in colour.

Leeanne, (SWMBO) was most impressed as all of them were waving as we were.. (I think she was a bit excited at the attention,,:cool:)

Chops

[labrado]

Ha I just found this explanation
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/attachments/f16/32007d1337495596-royal-wave-imageuploadedbytapatalk1337495595.556016.jpg


:Dyoung driver in my first landie

[goingbush]

Caught on LandyCam today,

copped a good wave from this bloke as he was walking toward his nice Series 3 Tray

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[labrado]

Caught on LandyCam today,

copped a good wave from this bloke as he was walking toward his nice Series 3 Tray

http://goingbush.com/landy/wave3.jpg
Hi, what sort of camera are you using? how did you install it in your defender?

[goingbush]

Hi, what sort of camera are you using? how did you install it in your defender?

It's a Blackvue DR400G HD blackbox car recorder, it sticks to the windshield in front of the mirror. Records constantly while key is on.
$250 on ebay

Here is an example of the output

BlackVue DR400 G HD (first test). LandRover Defender Td5 - YouTube


Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

[Moon.dog62]

As a new land rover owner I was unaware of this until I read this thread yesterday. So today I was out with my girl and I saw another bloke in a defender, waved and got one back. Makes you smile. I then had to explain this my gal, she thought it was pretty cool.

[Bardizzo]

The last thing every dealer should say just before you climb into your new landy is to be sure and wave to EVERY defender that you pass!!!

Dave

[Sentinel]

I wave at all LRs and I don't even drive one at the moment.

The kind of response I get varies with the location and its a wide spectrum:

- Rangie/ Disco driver in Eastern Suburbs/ Lower North Shore Sydney = surprised look . . . .who is this demented freak and why is he waving at me?

- Defender driver out in the country = waves back , stops , shakes hands, has time to have a cup of tea and a biscuit and a bit of a yarn :D

Keep the wave going :thumbsup:

[wpalmo]

Good to stumble onto this thread as it is something that I love about driving a Land-Rover. Pretty much always get a wave from Series drivers, sometimes get a wave from Defender drivers, can't remember if I have had a wave from a Disco or Rangie driver. Not sure if they know they are part of the club.

A good friend of mine drives a kombie and the wave is also passed on between Volkswagen drivers.

[Chops]

It seems alive and well around Melb today, and even half way between Benella/Wang too :D

[Humphrey]

Hi all,

I have noticed lately in Perth I don't get as many waves as normal.
I have upgraded from a 1992 TDI hardtop to a Grey 110 Puma and seem to get less waves in the new one...


I still give out heaps of waves.

Cheers,
Humphrey

[Drover]

I got out of a Disco into a D'fer (best move ever),

In the Disco, would be lucky to get 2 out of 10, in the D'fer (PUMA) must be 6's or 7's....

Just keep waving, it's how we roll...:D

[Lotz-A-Landies]

There's a Disco driver here in Darwin that waves at me. I never know what to do so I pretend to not have eye contact with them and fiddle with the radio or slip under the dashes line of sight if conditions suit.

Sorry Discos and RR are rapid departues from a true Rover an they do not qualify. It's rather simple actually. :twisted:Excuse me!

Can I see a Puma Defender in your avatar?

If it were not for the Range Rover and Discovery the your Land Rover would still be on leaf springs and would have gone the way of the Rover car and dodo bird.

[goingbush]

If it were not for the Range Rover and Discovery the your Land Rover would still be on leaf springs and would have gone the way of the Rover car and dodo bird.

Thats Flawed Logic.

If it Wasn't for Leaf Sprung Landrovers , You Would not have a Range Rover.

If it Wasn't For Range Rover you would not have a Disco.

[isuzutoo-eh]

Excuse me!

Can I see a Puma Defender in your avatar?

If it were not for the Range Rover and Discovery the your Land Rover would still be on leaf springs and would have gone the way of the Rover car and dodo bird.

Isn't the Iveco Massif or a Santana 4wd based on a Series 3 still with leaf springs? There is life in the design yet :p

[blue_mini]

I pretty much only get waves from tdci's. The few counties and 300tdis I see don't wave.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Isn't the Iveco Massif or a Santana 4wd based on a Series 3 still with leaf springs? There is life in the design yet :pHasnt the IVECO Massif also gone the way of the dodo? Has been replaced by the Daily 4X4! The Massif is no longer listed on the IVECO website Europe Iveco United Kingdom (http://web.iveco.com/uk/Pages/homepage.aspx)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thats Flawed Logic.

If it Wasn't for Leaf Sprung Landrovers , You Would not have a Range Rover.

If it Wasn't For Range Rover you would not have a Disco.Not flawed logic at all. The Range Rover was indeed a new platform developed from the Series 2/2a platform and I wave at both Series/Defender Land Rovers and Range Rover/Discovery based vehicles whether I am in a Series, Defender, Range Rover or Disco.

However if it were not for the Range Rover and subsequently Discovery models, the Land Rover marque would have been wound up like Rover, MG, Triumph and Austin cars were wound up as unprofitable unsuccessful brands.

It is only the Discovery Series one which was basically a new body on a Range Rover chassis that saved Land Rover from the scrap heap of failed British Motor manufacturers. Yes Range Rover may have succeeded as a small volume niche manufacturer like Aston Martin and Jaguar etc and that was the direction Ford PAG was positioning it, but Defender's future was looking very bleak under Ford. Ford PAG were so unfaithful to Defender that they didn't even submit it for Australian Army tender that Land Rover had held since 1958.

[Sue]

I got out of a Disco into a D'fer (best move ever),

In the Disco, would be lucky to get 2 out of 10, in the D'fer (PUMA) must be 6's or 7's....

Just keep waving, it's how we roll...:D




Excuse me!

Can I see a Puma Defender in your avatar?

If it were not for the Range Rover and Discovery the your Land Rover would still be on leaf springs and would have gone the way of the Rover car and dodo bird.

How did a friendly post on how many waves someone is getting in a Defender compared to a how many he got in a Discovery warrant that kind of reply? And by a moderator no less.. :eek:

And keep on waving peoples.. sooner or later we will win over the 'non wavers'.. :)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

How did a friendly post on how many waves someone is getting in a Defender compared to a how many he got in a Discovery warrant that kind of reply? And by a moderator no less.. :eek:

And keep on waving peoples.. sooner or later we will win over the 'non wavers'.. :)Sue, my post was not about Drovers wave count.

The reply was to busrangers earlier post about how he hides under the dash to avoid returning a wave to a frequently waving Disco driver in his local area. Then he goes onto claim that Rangies and Discos don't deserve a wave because they are too deviant from LR. IMHO thats pure justification for my reply.

[Sue]

Sue, my post was not about Drovers wave count.

The reply was to busrangers earlier post about how he hides under the dash to avoid returning a wave to a frequently waving Disco driver in his local area. Then he goes onto claim that Rangies and Discos don't deserve a wave because they are too deviant from LR. IMHO thats pure justification for my reply.

My apologies.. I didn't even see the quotation in your original reply.. :blush:

And I agree.. I have waved at disco drivers myself several times.. if someone waves at me I'll wave back regardless of what they drive.. :)

[nugge t]

I reckon the Defender fraternity is pretty good. I would get 9/10 waves....I feel really bad if am not concentrate and miss someone so apologies in advance if that happens :D

In general I lament the decline of acknowledging other vehicles in the bush and wrote a piece in 4WD Action mag a while back....

Save the Steering Wheel Salute
During our travels over the last couple of years, I have notice what I believe to be a significant decline in the great Aussie Steering Wheel Salute…the raising of the first finger from the steering wheel to acknowledge a fellow traveller going in the opposite direction.
To my generation…”old fart”…it has always been a common courtesy which probably began in my Dad’s day when they actually stopped and boiled the billy when meeting someone in remote areas.
It seems to me that you need to go a lot further west these days before it becomes common practice, which is a sad indictment on all of us sharing the nation’s roads.
On a recent trip we drove from Brisbane to Melbourne via the Newell Highway and I was getting RSI of the first finger for virtually zero return. I started to wonder if you needed to be further west. Our return trip took us via Wentworth, Wilcannia, Bourke, Walgett, Hebel and St George, but sadly I was faring no better. By the time we got to Roma and turned for home, I decided a poll was in order. I excluded trucks for the experiment, but gave significant salutes or in some cases, waves to the next 50 vehicles we passed. For my efforts I was acknowledged only 2 times!!!
What was interesting was that we were equally ignored by all road users. I was particularly surprised though that this included other 4WD’s, local farm vehicles and grey nomads in 4WD’s pulling caravans or camper trailers as I would have expected these groups to have maintained the simple, common courtesy.
It got to the stage where I was tempted to turn the 1st finger salute into a 2nd finger salute, but I figured that made me the same as them……but it was tempting!
I reckon this is a really crook state of affairs and we need to start a “Save the Steering Wheel Salute” campaign to try and make our highways a friendlier place again.

Cheers

:D:D

[OrangeZXr10R]

I was out on my bike and waved at a defender on my way up to Olinda, then I realized that the driver might think I'm an idiot for waving at him .. lol

[robbotd5]

I wave at Fenders all the time and they rarely wave back. The caravan wave however, is alive and well!!!
Regards
Robbo.

[Defender Mike]

The wave is alive and well in Perth. I rarley see a defer that doesnt acknowledge with a wave or lift of the finger off the wheel. Even the odd disco gives an admiring glance at the lights.:)Helps have a brand new shiny one I suppose.

Mike

[land864]

Fear not 110 owners. The wave is alive and well in Vic.
On Saturday I was in the Green County heading home to Eltham from Kilmore via Whittlesea when I spotted a White Fender coming towards me just near Whittlesea.
They had a car trailer on the back with an early Pootrol:eek:
The driver and I exchanged finger salutes but their passenger was gesticulating wildy:D
It warmed my heart :cool:

[drzzt]

Haha, I thought that was me, but we don't tow a trailer. My partner does the same thing, waves both her hands around. Gets a big kick out seeing people wave due to a car. If you could see in the back seat, the lil fella is waving too, saying "There goes Dad's car."

Chris

[sumosmurf76]

i drive past about 5 defenders every morning on Warringah freeway.....
3 out of 5 off them waves back but i will break into these two others one way or the other!
also a red disco driver always wave at me every morning but i havent seen him for a while.
wonder where he is....

[saligna]

My problem is my series III never leaves the farm, so I'm waving at defenders and other series Landys from my Hi Lux , I know ,I know but it has to do for the moment. I do some some waves tho.

[dullbird]

me too mate I see so many defers when Im in the hilux, I dont see blooody any when im in the defender :D

[Sue]

If you could see in the back seat, the lil fella is waving too, saying "There goes Dad's car."

That is so cute! :)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

My problem is my series III never leaves the farm, so I'm waving at defenders and other series Landys from my Hi Lux , I know ,I know but it has to do for the moment. I do some some waves tho.You need a AULRO decal on the windscreen of the HiLux!

[The Cone of Silence]

My other car is a 1967 Austin Healey and I've noticed that all classic car drivers tend to wave at each other regardless of the car they're driving. I've always had a tendency to be enormously enthusiastic about it - giving a hearty wave with my arm right up above the windscreen (roof down) or a big thumbs up to a particularly well-restored vehicle.

I was so happy that Defender owners wave at each other that in my first few trips I completely forgot about the wind deflectors on the driver door and in repeated wave attempts that have resulted in my hand hitting the deflector at pace, I've managed to really weaken one of the connectors for it and have lost plenty of knuckle skin too.

I do love the wave....so much is said between drivers during that moment.

Specifically for me, it's a silent doffing of one's cap....a recognition of another person's good taste, appreciation for character, tradition, wet feet and a love of fun overcoming the sensible accountant residing inside them.

It's also a validation of one's decision to buy and an overwhelming appreciation that as long as there are plenty of other Defenders on the road, there'll always be spare parts somewhere and a forum full of people to ask questions and seek advice.
:D

[Drover]

Got a wave from a sweet looking 130 Puma on Friday morning near the Oak at Hexam.

Big wheels, lifted suspension, custom alloy rear canopy - looked just like Cal415's but it was way to clean :wasntme:

Looked nice Mick :BigThumb:

[rick130]

My problem is my series III never leaves the farm, so I'm waving at defenders and other series Landys from my Hi Lux , I know ,I know but it has to do for the moment. I do some some waves tho.


We might have even passed in the last couple of weeks but I was in our Patrol every time :(

I will be coming through in the Deefer in the next few weeks, so keep your waving hand at the ready :D

[The ho har's]

We were out briefly today, it's not good driving in semi cyclonic weather, in RED 130 and the only defender we saw waved back at us:D I usually get around 95%+ that wave back.

Except when comming back from Beauy the other day a gentleman in a series 3 looked shocked that I waved from mine:confused::)

Mrs hh:angel:

[Meherio]

I wave every time i see one, the missus gives me a serve when the other defender is in the left hand lane of a 4 lane highway. I tell her it is the code!

Got a cool thumbs up from a svx on the bruce hwy near bribie island last weekend.

[Babs]

I'm a waver, my wife doesn't understand, she is confused as to why I get so excited.

The kids are in the habit of spotting other Deefers, especially my young bloke, and the girls are even pointing out Discos and RR's

Question, is there a thread on here for if you see someone in a particular place, that you can post it, that way they can say hey yeah that was me you saw today. That would be cool :)

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[kenleyfred]

Got a cool thumbs up from a svx on the bruce hwy near bribie island last weekend.[/QUOTE]

Did it have rooftop tent?
It was probably me. I spent the morning on Bribie.


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[Meherio]

Yep had the roof top tent. I was in green td5.

[Larks]

I got a 100% hit rate yesterday coming back from down south.

3 defenders and 3 waves reciprocated.

If it was anybody from here, I was in the bronze defender waving like a loon. I'm new to this and am a little enthusiastic!

James

[Sheppie]

Puma driver, i always wave, off a farm and had a series 3 and a 300 tdi before so its normal for me to wave to almost everyone, most defer drivers wave here in Narooma

[gcl381]

About 2 weeks and 2000kms into ownership & 100% waving from/to other defender owners, which would be about four times I reckon. Even accidentally waved from my wife's subaru the other day. Love it - I've had older cars in the past & it's nice to get the wave thing going on a daily driver.

[Bess]

Two Defenders & Two Discoverys later my wife & I feel it's our mission to wave to ALL types of Land Rover/Range Rover owners. The Disco & Rangie owners seem to be a little reluctant to join in but that's just part of the fun. Currently in our new Puma & loving the camaraderie. If I have to explain ya wouldn't understand is a constant to most JAP owners.:)

I do feel that there is a little anti Puma out there & I wonder if this was the case on all the model/engine changes or is it just that we got lumbered with the Ford hand me down. I still reckon it's a shame that the V6 Tdi ( re D3/4 ) wasn't fitted to the Defender but while she's still a Land Rover I will support her all the way. ;)

[rick130]

[snip]

I do feel that there is a little anti Puma out there & I wonder if this was the case on all the model/engine changes or is it just that we got lumbered with the Ford hand me down. I still reckon it's a shame that the V6 Tdi ( re D3/4 ) wasn't fitted to the Defender but while she's still a Land Rover I will support her all the way. ;)

I wonder whether there's a far greater % of first time Landy owners with the TDCi as quite a few IME seem reluctant to raise a finger, let alone a hand :angel:

[steane]

I got three waves yesterday. Some dude at the Duck Inn (local hotel) watched me drive past, pointed and waved. Then a couple in a Puma 90 both waved madly as we passed heading in opposite directions over Cross Road.

Funniest one of all was the wave I got from a 70 Series Cruiser driver. He went out of his way, and almost out of his window to wave and give me the thumbs up from the other side of the road.

My wife couldn't believe the attention. I just reminded her that she was riding in an icon. She didn't understand :(

[The ho har's]

I got three waves yesterday. Some dude at the Duck Inn (local hotel) watched me drive past, pointed and waved. Then a couple in a Puma 90 both waved madly as we passed heading in opposite directions over Cross Road.

Funniest one of all was the wave I got from a 70 Series Cruiser driver. He went out of his way, and almost out of his window to wave and give me the thumbs up from the other side of the road.

My wife couldn't believe the attention. I just reminded her that she was riding in an icon. She didn't understand :(

I have had that happen to us before, my thought is he was probably in his work truck and forgot it wasn't a land rover. There was mention of driving the wife's Subaru and waiving;):D

Mrs hh:angel:

[rick130]

I have had that happen to us before, my thought is he was probably in his work truck and forgot it wasn't a land rover. There was mention of driving the wife's Subaru and waiving;):D

Mrs hh:angel:

Hell I do it while driving the Patrol :angel:

[Witchdoctor]

I'm getting 100% reply, loving it

Cheers
David

[goingbush]

Sorry to the guy in the red 110 I flashed & waved to at Diamond Creek today,
didn't realise my headlight hi-beam flash jammed on until next time I looked at the speedo. Gotta love the Lucas electric's. (btw how bright are my LED headlamps ?)

[steane]

I have had that happen to us before, my thought is he was probably in his work truck and forgot it wasn't a land rover. There was mention of driving the wife's Subaru and waiving;):D

Mrs hh:angel:

Good point, I didn't think of that. Makes some sense now.

[Evil90]

I just want to say a big hello to the owner of a very attractive black 110 dual cab ute in Canberraa week or so ago… I was so busy drooling over your truck I forgot to wave back…Sorry!! :bangin:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Has anyone picked up on the line in a recent Ford Territory ad about other Ford Territoriacs giving each other a litttle wave?

Last time we lost the Land Rover "V" wave to the Valiant Charger and now the Defender wave has been stolen by the Territory! :nazilock:

[dunny1]

I support the wave, first time owner of a defender and was very excited to be included in the wave. ( although when the first few came my way I thought why)
Now I make every effort to be the first.

[Mr Rover]

They should explain the wave at the dealership when you buy a new Landy!

I drive both a RRC and a Puma, I wave for just about every Landy that I see, and like a lot of people are saying, current model Disco and RR owners don't seem to get it.

I've never got a wave back from a Sport - yet.

[goingbush]

They should explain the wave at the dealership when you buy a new Landy!



WOT , You mean like this, "driver training" for free

"Jeep Wave" Ferman CJD New Port Richey - YouTube

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I wave at everyone but rarely get a return wave in my D4, Rangie classic owners wave at me when I'm in the classic, but most waves I get is from defender and series drivers when I'm driving the SIII.

[schuy1]

Defender and series drivers are the best at it! Although am seeing more D2 drivers coming on board! My stepdaughter got her L's at Chissy and wanted to drive the D2, so after an lesson on controles and handling( it handles different to the Getz is why! ) I instructed her on the proper wave to give other Landies, From the look on her face I think I was about 2mins from being accosted by men in white coats! :D But the first defeer and she was dumbfounded! HaHaHa! :D

[rick130]

WOT , You mean like this, "driver training" for free

"Jeep Wave" Ferman CJD New Port Richey - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRrpYwBaEhU)

When I was a kid in the seventies ALL Jeeps waved to each other here in Australia.
As a kid i loved it.

Actually, come to think of it, all 4WD's waved to each other back then.
Real 4wd's were very much in the minority on the roads travelling around.

[patclan]

Actually, come to think of it, all 4WD's waved to each other back then.
Real 4wd's were very much in the minority on the roads travelling around.

I found on my last outback trip I was waving at every 4x4 on the road, it seemed the norm, as soon as you hit civilization the waves diminished and was back to just LR waves, not too many people out there so I guess brand allegiance goes and it is back to all being on the one side..

[rick130]

I found on my last outback trip I was waving at every 4x4 on the road, it seemed the norm, as soon as you hit civilization the waves diminished and was back to just LR waves, not too many people out there so I guess brand allegiance goes and it is back to all being on the one side..


Away from the highway here everyone waves/lifts a finger, whether they know you or not, although it seems everyone knows of me via the car :eek:

[jimr1]

:D Hi to all you roosters , Today a Black 110 60th anaversary drove along beside me . yes the wave , then another so pulled over and we had a chat for about 1/2 a hour , how good was that ...:D..

[AndrewGJones]

You'd want to make damn sure you wave at this woman defender driver, for multiple reasons, some of which involve elaborate breakdown fantasies and road side fluid checks...

[AndrewGJones]

seriously though, I didn't used to wave at discos -not out of snobbery, but generally didn't get a response, and now with the amount of shopping trolley late models on the road, it's a war of attrition with me on the loosing side...

sometimes it is just so obviously not a 'landrover' driver behind the wheel, sometimes I wonder if some of them realise it is even a landrover at all.

on the other end, there was always plenty of series drives that wouldn't wave back to my defender. I think it may be a 'stratified' waving system, birds of a feather etc.

Ok back to **** stirring; Perhaps late model RR drivers do wave back by putting their nose further in the air...

[jimr1]

You'd want to make damn sure you wave at this woman defender driver, for multiple reasons, some of which involve elaborate breakdown fantasies and road side fluid checks...
Hi Andrew , Hope , I would have rememberd , if it had been Angelina Jolie . If I do see her , i'll give her a wave ...cheers jimr1...:D..

[AndrewGJones]

ha, another comma addict I see...it is incurable you know. Once one starts taking pauses, then it is downhill from there, the triple dots come out to play, using the semi-colon; very addictive indeed!...[tonguewink]

[goingbush]

<snip>

sometimes it is just so obviously not a 'landrover' driver behind the wheel, sometimes I wonder if some of them realise it is even a landrover at all.




MATE !! You better Believe it .

TRUE STORY

Some family members recently moved to Sydney from USA.

They told me they Test drove a LAND ROVER in USA and they really liked the LAND ROVER DC100 that was on show at Los Angles Car Show. ( you getting my drift)

Get to Sydney and I had to help them buy a car, Spent all week driving around in the Defender shopping, (suprised they didnt shout , "hey youve got a Defender or something when I met them" ) turns out the "LAND ROVER" they drove in LA was a FL2 , Ended up buying a Kia & a Hyundai .
At the end of the week one of then moticed the badge on the back of the Defender and asked ........"why do I have a Land Rover badge on the back of my truck" .
... UN Believable :bangin:

and I'm not exagerating one bit !!!~

[AndrewGJones]

Classic.

well they can't be blamed, the way the luxury end has been marketed from the start, (changing the brand to 'Range Rover' back in the day) has always created a divide. It's quite silly really, I doubt it was ever more than some boring executive in an equally boring meeting deciding that one 'class' of people wouldn't want to be seen in farming vehicles. I don't see VW or mercedes or any others I can think of doing it, and they have the same utilitarian roots. Jeeps manage to churn out Jeeps and even play on it in the marketing these days (Oh, you bought a Jeep!), but 'Range Rovers' have been artificially segregated from the start.

[rick130]

ha, another comma addict I see...it is incurable you know. Once one starts taking pauses, then it is downhill from there, the triple dots come out to play, using the semi-colon; very addictive indeed!...[tonguewink]

Damn, and I thought I had a problem with comma's.

And, I even trot out the Oxford comma given half a chance. :angel:

[AndrewGJones]

The Oxford comma? (google, google...) Oh, the Oxford comma! Prefer the Harvard myself.

[AndrewGJones]

Solihill comma, <oil change pause here> anyone?

Solihill Comma (n), expletive , [1] a drop of oil hanging from any part of a Landrover [2] a drop of oil from a landrover on one's head.

[jimr1]

Solihill comma, <oil change pause here> anyone?

Solihill Comma (n), expletive , [1] a drop of oil hanging from any part of a Landrover [2] a drop of oil from a landrover on one's head.
Hi Andrew , this is all new to me , laptop les than a year , I love it , I'm a one finger man so yes dots commas , you coul see a few semi colons when i find the key , by the way what was this thread about ...:D

[Dan]

The Landy wave must have become a natural reflex...
A few weeks ago my fiancee told me I was a goose for waving at a Defender. Then I realised what she meant.
I was driving her Ford Falcon at the time!:p

[AndrewGJones]

You'd want to make damn sure you wave at this woman defender driver, for multiple reasons, some of which involve elaborate breakdown fantasies and road side fluid checks...


Hi Andrew , this is all new to me , laptop les than a year , I love it , I'm a one finger man so yes dots commas , you coul see a few semi colons when i find the key , by the way what was this thread about ...:D

Haha Jim, I have been shut down here. :D

Let me get out my 'Men in Black' memory eraser, "now, just look at the red dot" -*click*, I was never here..:p

[Hamjam]

I have been driving Defender's for over 30 years in Aus and 10 years before that in Scotland, With the WAVE .And I also agree that the WAVE is not as prominent in the younger owners, You can't drive a Defender without the WAVE it's just not good. You can not be a true Defender owner whith out the WAVE.

[Mr Rover]

I have been driving Defender's for over 30 years in Aus and 10 years before that in Scotland, With the WAVE .And I also agree that the WAVE is not as prominent in the younger owners, You can't drive a Defender without the WAVE it's just not good. You can not be a true Defender owner whith out the WAVE.
Need to get some of these stickers over here:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Sussdisco]

after reading all these comments, my question is; is my wave welcome coming from a disco driver? ya'll dont seem to like disco's :(

p.s. i love waving to fellow branded vehicles and im from the younger generation still...at 25...aren't i? :D

[saiken]

I'm from Victoria and I always wave, if I think they won't see it I always throw my arm out the window! It's a habit that dates back from being a kid in landies so I almost try it as I buzz past them on my motorbike by accident!!!

I'm also in the younger gen being 25

[ugu80]

after reading all these comments, my question is; is my wave welcome coming from a disco driver? ya'll dont seem to like disco's :(

p.s. i love waving to fellow branded vehicles and im from the younger generation still...at 25...aren't i? :D

When it comes to waving, I'm a Defender snob and proud of it (the title of thread is, after all, 'The Defender Wave').

[Babs]

Naughty naughty, a 90 did not wave to me the Thursday night on Herring Rd North Ryde, the disappointing factor was she (Girl driver) almost ran into me as she turned into the roundabout :( Here I am waving away, she did not even recognise I was a Deefer:confused:

[mickashay]

I find I get most waves from older model defenders like mine and new defender drivers are more snobbish around Melbourne anyways

[goingbush]

I only wave to Defenders & proper Land Rovers (leafers) never get a return wave from one of the comfy models, the Puma return rate is about 50%



Need to get some of these stickers over here:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

anybody tried going to the web address on the bottom of above sticker

www.nlrk.no (http://www.nlrk.no)

very interesting, use Google chrome and it will translate Norsk to English for you

.

[iClick]

Got a nice wave and FLASH this morning from a 110 in Caringbah this morning. Not being much of a flasher myself, he did get a good wave in return ;)

[Sue]

I only wave to Defenders & proper Land Rovers (leafers) never get a return wave from one of the comfy models, the Puma return rate is about 50%

anybody tried going to the web address on the bottom of above sticker



very interesting, use Google chrome and it will translate Norsk to English for you

.

I find it the opposite.. I wave but don't always get a wave back from the older Defenders.. tonight I was along side a Blu 110 but despite my best efforts the driver was determined to not wave back.. :(

Oh and I emailed the company from the sticker but the guy who replied said no one in the office there knows anything about the sticker so it must be a very old one.. he promised to make some enquiries and get back to me.. :)

[rick130]

I find it the opposite.. I wave but don't always get a wave back from the older Defenders.. tonight I was along side a Blu 110 but despite my best efforts the driver was determined to not wave back.. :(

[snip]


IME that seems to be a Qld Deefer driver thing :angel:

[VladTepes]

Yes we need similar stickers here BUT
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

The wave should be OUT the window (lack of elbow room and window will be down anyway)
Graphics should somehow impart the impression of a wave rather than a Nazi salute !

Meter needs to be spelled properly metre

For further instructions but should be removed and replaced with a plug for aulro.com

aulro logo.


Someone with good computer skills should do a mock up.

It coudl really take off -could distribute them through LR dealers and repairers around Australia on a 50:50 profit split, proceeds toward AULRO running costs.

[VladTepes]

oh and sticker should presumably be fitted to inside of sun visor.

[easo]

I got some good waves last Sunday 2 defenders going nth out of Melbourne in convoy, I assume they were with a Disco in front. And on the way back with a trailer load of round bails I got overtaken by a p-plate red county. All with exceptional waving ability.

Easo

[wpalmo]

Yes we need similar stickers here BUT
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/16/attention0.jpg

The wave should be OUT the window (lack of elbow room and window will be down anyway)
Graphics should somehow impart the impression of a wave rather than a Nazi salute !

Meter needs to be spelled properly metre

For further instructions but should be removed and replaced with a plug for aulro.com

aulro logo.


Someone with good computer skills should do a mock up.

It coudl really take off -could distribute them through LR dealers and repairers around Australia on a 50:50 profit split, proceeds toward AULRO running costs.


Needs a right hand drive Series Land Rover picture too.

[goingbush]

Needs a right hand drive Series Land Rover picture too.

no, Series drivers know the Wave Etiquette, it needs to stay a Puma,
but RHD, yes

[Loubrey]

You guys are being unnecessarily hard on the whole "Puma Drivers" issue.

I'd still say 90% of Puma owners are long time Land Rover people and mostly 90/110 and Defender drivers. I've never had a deliberate non-return of a wave from a Puma driver (had those from grumpy series drivers!). Now and then you've got a startled newbie (WA plates show vehicle age quite clearly), but the shared "Defender Grin" usually gets a response.

I agree there is no harm in briefing people at the vehicle handover what the etiquette is should they be new to the marque, but most of the small minority quickly cottons on to what's going on!

On a slightly different matter, our contract specialist (disguised lawyer) didn't even know that her new Evoque and my Defender 90 are the same marque...!:eek:

Keep waving!:D

Cheers,

Lou

[Eevo]

in general waving is egotistical.
nodding to other riders on bikes, very similar.

[Loubrey]

To quote a fellow club member just down the road from the point of origin - Solihul

(Bit long winded, but a good read!:D) (PS apologies if it's been posted before - this is a long thread!)

If you drive a Series Landy or a Defender, you know about “The Wave”. “The Wave” is your rolling connection to the Landrover brother & sisterhood, but is there a special secret to this wave?
When you started driving did you seek out a wave master and perhaps copy theirs, or did you develop one of your own? Have you ever wondered if you’re wave is appropriate? Do you wonder if the wave you’re flashing is politically correct, or old and outdated? Unfortunately, wave training is not covered in the basic or advanced driving lessons.

Many drivers believed there was a secret wave society formed around 1947 when that first prototype rolled out of that shed, but there wasn’t.
It all started, one day late in the summer of 1948, when Maurice Wilks passed by Spencer Wilks and they waved. Well, another Landrover owner saw the two "Kings of Landys" doing this and thought this was a Landrovering necessity and the tradition was born.
The waving tradition continued on through the years and became haphazard. There were Landy owners doing the “Bye Grandma Wave”, others doing the "Howdy Wave" and still others doing the extremely feminine “Princess Wave". In 1958 with the release of the Series II, and after several years of these, image destroying gestures, a group of crusty old Landy owners decided to put some proper waving rules in place and formed the Wave Hard And True - Landy Society. Abbreviated: WHAT-LS or "wattles"

To wave or not to wave, that is the question. We’ve all faced that critical mass state when we felt obligated to wave but then became unsure.
The worrying starts and then there’s that overwhelming feeling of guilt. Well, worry no more; here are some general waving rules to help guide you :
1) Motorway; unnecessary,
2) in a curve; unnecessary
3) in the rain or at night; unnecessary
4) on a mellow two lane; proper.
5) a highway with little traffic; proper
6) A rally, unnecessary
7) in traffic, proper.

There are, however, times when not waving is just down right rude. So if you’re not a jackass, when you are presented with “The Wave” you should, if at all possible, reciprocate. If it’s the proper place and time and you receive no reciprocal wave, don’t get your panties in a bunch and think you’ve just passed a jackass, because there are some acceptable reasons.

These reasons are as follows:
1) you weren’t seen,
2) Gear selection,
3) a head nod was substituted.

There are 5 basic waves
1) the right-handed forward wave.
2) the right-handed low wave,
3) the right-handed high wave
4) the right-handed out of the window wave
5) the left-handed I've just changed gear wave,

The variations of these waves are as varied as the Landy owners & the Landy's they drive, but there are some basic rules.

1) Right-handed forward wave is an all around general wave. The arm can be either fully or partially extended with no more than a 10 degree angle higher or lower than the shoulder. The palm must be facing the oncoming driver in either a horizontal or vertical position and a full palm must be shown. It is suggested you present the hand in a relaxed state, as flattening it will make you look like a dork. The classic variations of the peace sign or thumbs up are also acceptable. If practiced, this is one of the easiest waves to master and will work with all Landy's. If for some reason you can’t get this wave to work, you will probably have serious problems engaging or even finding diff lock and should immediately sell your Landy before you cause yourself anymore embarrassment!

2) Right-handed low wave, sometimes called the classic wave. The arm is partially extended and the hand kept down just above the steering wheel with the extension of either one, two, three or five fingers. The direction of the palm is also critical to the look and feel of this wave. The palm must either face the other driver or face the road. A classic variation of the finger positioning is throwing a peace sign or thumbs up. To low wave with the palm facing up or back and/or with the use of 4 fingers is telling the Landrovering community at large that you are either new or inept. If you have a series landy or Defender and can’t get this wave to work for you, then consider the Right-Handed forward wave or selling your Landy.

3) Right-handed high wave is a variation of the typical wave seen made by kings and kids alike. Mostly used by drivers with soft tops. The elbow is kept even or slightly lower than shoulder height. The elbow should be bent at about a 75 – 85 degree angle with a slight forward angling of the forearm. The palm must be facing the oncoming driver and the hand can either remain still or the use of a side to side motion is acceptable. This wave has been proven very useful when you have a loose watchband. It is suggested you present the hand in a relaxed state, as once again, flattening it will make you appear to be a dork. The classic variations of the peace sign or thumbs up are frowned upon when using this type of wave. it’s a bit too over the top. Important: This should never, ever be used when still holding the steering wheel. Warning of possible injury: Do not use this type of wave if your in a hard top or a soft top with the roof still on. You will appear aloof, snobbish and everyone will hate you! If you have a medical condition or feel you must use this type of wave, get a soft top and don’t be a dick about it. There are rules!

4) Right-handed out of the window wave. This is an occasional use wave. Typically seen being employed during the summer months. The arm maybe fully or partially extended in fact very similar to the right-handed forward wave. But on no account must the arm be too high or the hand moved from side to side. Done correctly the general message being sent is “I am cool and damn it, It's hot, isn't it?”. This wave if not executed correctly can be uncool. This lack of coolness can cause a temporary condition known as “Dickishness” which can be instantly healed by passing a Landy giving the right hand forward wave.

5) Left-handed wave. This wave is solely used by drivers who are caught short seeing a Landy just as they change gear because, let’s face it, what the hell else can they do in that position? A flashed wave, is almost imperceptible due to the speed of the wave and the Landy. To execute this wave one must slightly raise the left hand above the level of the dash board, no more than 3 or 4 inches, show the palm and return to the steering wheel. This entire motion must be fluid and executed in under three seconds. You must learn all the intricacies of this wave before you take your first drive. If you don’t, they will know you’re a newbie. The only way to avoid this lame wave stigma is by doing something crazy like driving while naked. If you don’t get arrested, that’s a big plus!

The last and probably most important part of the wave is the hand you’re using to wave. You’ll want to care for that hand because without it; How do you expect to wave? Get some of the best hand cleansing soaps and lotions you can afford to clean that hand and protect it.

When approaching another Landy always remember to maintain the rule of "The Wave", you never know who's watching!

So come on all you new Defender, Freelander, Rangie and Disco drivers get with the programme this is for you too.

[Loubrey]

And for those still confused, some pictorial instructions...:D

Cheers,

Lou

[The ho har's]

You guys are being unnecessarily hard on the whole "Puma Drivers" issue.

I'd still say 90% of Puma owners are long time Land Rover people and mostly 90/110 and Defender drivers. I've never had a deliberate non-return of a wave from a Puma driver (had those from grumpy series drivers!). Now and then you've got a startled newbie (WA plates show vehicle age quite clearly), but the shared "Defender Grin" usually gets a response.


Keep waving!:D

Cheers,

Lou

Hey I drive a series III and a defender and a series 1 80" and a 101 Forward control.


I can tell you I am not grumpy;):p

And I still get waves:D

Mrs hh:angel:

[Loubrey]

:D:D Over generalised like the comment about Puma drivers! :D:D


Comment withdrawn...:p

Cheers,

Lou

[Sandgroper]

My first landie was a series 2A, my second a series 3, third a 300tdi and my latest a 2012 puma, I've always waved and still do. It's a great way of acknowledging others who share good taste in motoring!

[Hoges]

I was chuffed to have a disco driver and passenger provide a hearty wave recently while passing me in P38 (in same direction) on the freeway. I checked that all doors were closed etc and there was nothing catastrophioc about to befall me:eek:... then I notice they also had an AULRO sticker on rear window:D

I don't see it as a "Deefer" thing... but rather as a LR solidarity thing...very few RR Sport or later model Vogue people wave however... trendy "lease-ers" rather than true believers perhaps:angel::wasntme:

[patclan]

I wave vigorously at any Land Rover with the approx shape of a defender, I lift the finger of the steering wheel for a disco just in case it is not a mother doing the school run. I make more of an effort if it is a Disco with some touring gear attached as I guess they may be in a similar mindset.

I am yet to have a respnse from a Disco, but I think some of the drivers will be thinking that bloody Defender driver waved and me and I did not respond, another complaint on the forum!!

I gave up waving at RR a while back.

These are my general rules of engagement but sometimes you just can't react quick enough or get the correct line of sight for a wave.

I think new Defender owners wave with more enthusiasm (as I probably did 3 years ago) something with being new to the club and being part of something iconic..

[nugge t]

Just did Brisbane -Sydney return on the coast road. Waved at 9 Defenders and got 6 back. Pretty good for mainly Freeway driving. Missed a couple of others where I saw them too late so I'll appologise up front for missing them. :D

Also got a wave from a couple in a flashy silver car which I thought was fantastic getting waves from non Defender vehicles. Turned out to be Witchdoctor so that explained that one!

[bigmac]

I got a wave from two Defenders this week on the Bruce Highway just South of Rocky to my suprise as I am driving around in a Ford Ranger hire vehicle up there.
I always wave at all Landy's when I am not in mine to see if I get any replies and I get a few.

Bigmac

[The ho har's]

Well I got the ultimate wave to day:D Went to the shop in big RED and I waved to a 110 at the lights, they followed me and parked beside me for a chat:cool:

Turns out they love their defender but don't know about AULRO:( they do now:D:D

Mrs hh:angel:

[Lafia]

Love the Defender Wave, however my daughter hasn't quite caught the spirit so when she's driving she's almost oblivious to other defenders approaching, but my wife feels obligated to return the waves from the passenger side to compensate for the poor form by the driver! It's certainly raised her defender awareness level.

On a similar note, when growing up the family vehicle was an old VW Kombi split screen model. All split screen models waved at each other with almost 100% reliability, particularly on country roads. Usually all occupants not just the driver! The newer full screen models just didn't get into it at all. I'm sure this has probably died out with the lack of old Kombis on the road now.

Cheers

[Cruiserlux]

I've owned a defender for 11 days now. Today was the first time I have passed another defender and I got my first defender wave. What a good feeling. It was from a green 90 heading south on Peninsula link about 6pm. Anyone on here?

[bicubic]

In Preston (VIC) we wave... I just did today (and got it back). Sometimes I even toot for the mechanic on St Georges Road who leaves his nice 90 in full view. I definitely like do this when I see his head under any Nissan... Go Mario.

[bigsmile]

Paul.

[wpalmo]

On a similar note, when growing up the family vehicle was an old VW Kombi split screen model. All split screen models waved at each other with almost 100% reliability, particularly on country roads. Usually all occupants not just the driver! The newer full screen models just didn't get into it at all. I'm sure this has probably died out with the lack of old Kombis on the road now.

Cheers

Same for split screen land Rover's. Series drivers are very reliable to return a wave.

[Sue]

in general waving is egotistical.
nodding to other riders on bikes, very similar.

Really? I'm sorry you feel that way...

I find it to bring a sense of comradeship.. of mateship even as I have had some lovely chats to other Landy owners that I've bumped into in carparks and on the road etc

I'm not quite sure how ego comes into that. It's such a pity that you are missing out.

[ezyrama]

I'm with you on this one Sue, I saw a new Nara Bronze 110 Puma yesterday and got a wave back, we have an older guy here on the coast that lives up the mountains in an old S3 88" truck cab who cruises back and forwards one or twice a week, he usually waves as well. I think it just a bit of good hearted fun by people interested in the same thing. I always used to get waves and wave back when I drove a mini moke, it was just a given that you did it.I dont see anything egotistical about it.I even have SWMBO and Little SWMBO doing it now.

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[ROVINON]

Come to Perth, very rare if a defender driver does not wave.
Cheers Rovinon

[kenleyfred]

Mr and Mrs HoHar
It was me in the green toyota ute waving at you today on the M1. Thanks for waving back. First time I've had a Defender wave to me in my ute.
Kenley

[zealand]

The Defender wave is alive and doing well up here in Maryborough Qld

[ To all jeep owners ]

" Its a L-R thing you wouldn't understand "

:banana:

[87County]

everyone (I think) - even a Jeep driver - would wave across the Nullabor :)

[Sue]

The Defender wave is alive and doing well up here in Maryborough Qld

[ To all jeep owners ]

" Its a L-R thing you wouldn't understand "

:banana:

They have jumped on the band wagon.. not so sure it's taking off though as I've yet to see any jeep drivers wave to each other..

Urban Dictionary: Jeep Wave (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php'term=Jeep%20Wave)

[rick130]

They have jumped on the band wagon.. not so sure it's taking off though as I've yet to see any jeep drivers wave to each other..

Urban Dictionary: Jeep Wave (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php'term=Jeep%20Wave)

Methinks you need to brush up on your history Sue, Jeep drivers were waving to each other right across this wide brown and green land when I was a little tacker in the early seventies ;)
The Jeep wave isn't a new thing.

[130man]

Hi all. I have just returned from a trip to Tasmania and all Defender drivers I encountered except one , waved. The exception was looking over his shoulder at a rear seat passenger while at a traffic light , so he probably shouldn't be counted, as he didn't see me. On that basis, the wave is still going well. Cheers, 130man.

[Sue]

Methinks you need to brush up on your history Sue, Jeep drivers were waving to each other right across this wide brown and green land when I was a little tacker in the early seventies ;)
The Jeep wave isn't a new thing.

I must be too young to have seen that.. :p

[carlschmid2002]

The wave is alive and well here in Townsville. I pass a white 110 on the way to work each morning at 700 am on Ingham Road and he always waves. I am in the grey 90 if he reads this.

[rick130]

I must be too young to have seen that.. :p


I wouldn't dare ask a lady her age anyway :angel:

[Cruiserlux]

Last night on Peninsula Link I got a wave and a flash of the headlights. Made my day.

[tonic]

I have had some lovely chats to other Landy owners that I've bumped into in carparks


It's always nice to be polite when your exchanging insurance details:wasntme:

[debruiser]

Must be dying in Mackay.... Not tooo many do the old wave here (well they don't wave to me at least, maybe they don't like my classic defender :P )