Thread: Law & Order is STUFFED.

Originally Posted by trout1105

FFS This excuse has been done to death, Enough already.
There ARE alternatives already in place instead of turning to crime, How much 'mollycoddling" do these people need??

They pro'ly do need "mollycoddling" but at a much younger age, a project has been done in NZ called the Dunedin Project (Dunedin Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study - Wikipedia) which has followed people for 40+ years and it shows that criminal behaviour can be predicted in childhood. If more money was spent on childhood intervention, less money could be spent on prisons eventually, and save victims and perpetrators a lot of suffering.

Repeat offender here's an idea reoffending over permanently

Trout it doesn't matter how many times you say enough already people who have half an idea what they are doing will, thankfully, continue to look for answers a little less simplistic than your solution.

A 10 year old needs mentoring to know what behavior is moral and what is unacceptable.

Originally Posted by trout1105

I have been on the other side of the fence, I spent 2 weeks inside Geraldton regional (The old jail) when I was a young bloke for not paying a traffic fine until my boss paid the fine for me and got me out of there, It scared the crap out of me and I have been a Very good boy ever since.
You say you have spent 28 years in the system, that makes you either a career criminal or a screw and I am guessing a screw But that is me making assumptions just like yourself.
I have also been the victim of crime as have some of my close family and I know exactly how that feels as well so the Last thing I need is someone telling me how I should think about the justice system.

So YES I have "Been there Done that" and I don't consider violent criminals, murderers, rapists, rock spiders, drug dealers and other vermin as "My fellow human beings" at all, I consider them to be nothing more than ****ing animals.
Yes there are instances where people that have been convicted deserve some compassion ( believe it or not I have done this) But in the majority of cases this compassion is undeserved and unwarranted.

Exactly.
For sure, prison is a place no-one in their right mind would want to be, I get that.
However, I DO know someone who is involved in the prison system very well, on a daily basis.
Prison should be a place of deterrent, where ya don't wanna go, but for many it isn't, it simply isn't,...their own rooms, tv, computer, choice of meals, etc etc etc,......IMHO prison should be a place where ya REALLY don't wanna go. That is not the case for crims at the moment,......it's actually a bit of a holiday for many of them.
In fact, if one was a homeless person, Ya'd do well to commit some sort of crime to get yaself inside, çause it'd be a squillion times better than living on the streets,......but, and here is the difference, it shouldn't be.
Pickles.

Sounds like they should save the prison places for some people who really need them, like a lot of the old folks in nursing homes, they seem to be badly treated according to the stories that are coming out.

Originally Posted by ozscott

Trout it doesn't matter how many times you say enough already people who have half an idea what they are doing will, thankfully, continue to look for answers a little less simplistic than your solution.

As long as their solutions don't impact the rest of us then I am all for it But this leniency given by the courts and the amount of reoffenders after receiving this leniency obviously isn't working.
Certainly removing the kids from ****ty households Before they are ruined for life would work But be VERY careful with this idea especially with Aboriginal kids because this would create an absolute ****storm.

Like you say there are people with half an idea looking for answers and therein lies the problem, They only have HALF an idea.
Criminality has been a social problem for millennia and despite the efforts of various peoples from the different ages and civilisations trying to combat this behaviour NOTHING has proven to work So what makes these people with HALF an idea think that they have the "Miracle" cure.
Unfortunately criminality is part of the Human nature as is our thirst for War, Greed and Violence.
The quest for finding a cure for criminal behaviour is akin to the search for a perpetual motion machine, In theory it could work but building the machine is a completely different matter.

Yep it's not easy. Cheers