Thread: Corona Virus

An interesting read on how Britain is taking a different path to dealling with the virus. I makes a refreshing change from the hysteria and mayhem here in the last couple of days.

Coronavirus: Why Britain is letting the COVID-19 spread


Regards,
Tote

Originally Posted by Tote

An interesting read on how Britain is taking a different path to dealling with the virus. I makes a refreshing change from the hysteria and mayhem here in the last couple of days.

Coronavirus: Why Britain is letting the COVID-19 spread


Regards,
Tote

And this is why they are entirely on the wrong path:

I’m an epidemiologist. When I heard about Britain’s ‘herd immunity’ coronavirus plan, I thought it was satire | William Hanage | Opinion | The Guardian

I'd go with the views of the Harvard University epedimiologist.

Originally Posted by johntins

Agreed, although I have to say that the only thing stressing me is mum's soup. She contributed 10 times more to this county than those here who think she should be dead, and I believe she should be able to eat.

Back to your post.. this whole thing needs to be taken in the spirit you imply. We will get through this.

I've been thinking about this whole situation. And my Mum, and Dad. Both gone now, they were from a generation of Australians who struggled through hardships most of their lives. The end of the great depression, WW2, the years after, with Mum on her own out west on properties, having and raising children on her own.
[ The flying doctor saved Mum and my brother after a difficult birth] Dad working from daylight to dusk, doing the many jobs needed to run a Sheep/ cattle station. Never complaining, just getting on with it. Rarely had a spare quid , and if they did they would share it with someone less fortunate. All their lives they lived like that, thinking of others before themselves, my old Mum never had a bad word against any one, how many times did I hear "stop complaining , there's always some one worse off than you ".

Dad struggled most of his adult life with his demons, that found him whilst in New Guinea and Balikpapan, fighting the Japanese. Truth be known, that's why he was out West. When things got rough. he could saddle his horse and go off " to keep busy". That was his mantra, " the secret to life, is keep busy". Why am I reminiscing ? Dad told me a story, he was on the Kokoda track, with what was left of his Battalion, retiring to the next defensive position, after fighting the Japanese to a standstill. Being heavily outnumbered , and with the Japanese outflanking them in an effort to surround them and wipe them out, these men, suffering from dysentery, beri beri, dengue fever, and malaria, dragged themselves up, and moved on to fight again. My Father went on to say " I said to MR …..[ his officer] Can I pull out to have a ****? The Officer said " We will all **** at the appropriate moment , Private."


What's this got to do with the present situation? It seems present day Australians have given up before the fight has even started. To paraphrase that steadfast Officer I would have to say " we will all panic at the appropriate moment ", until then I will quote my wonderful Mother " just bloody get on with it !"

I hope your wonderful Mum has her soup.

Both my parents lived through two world wars, the 1919 epidemic and the Great Depression. They had a similar attitude to what you describe, although my father did not serve in the military - in WW1 he was still in school, and WW2 he was in a protected occupation. But my mother lost three sisters and my father an aunt in 1919, and my father lost his first wife and spent several years road building on 'relief work' in the depression.

I think back to my childhood - to school books covered with used brown wrapping paper for example. And the things we simply did not have. I think we are going there over the next few years.

Originally Posted by Tote

An interesting read on how Britain is taking a different path to dealling with the virus. I makes a refreshing change from the hysteria and mayhem here in the last couple of days.

Coronavirus: Why Britain is letting the COVID-19 spread


Regards,
Tote

Think they have completely missed the point and are on a dangerous path (if this is true). Current bans on things aren't to stop it spreading, but to slow the spread over a longer period so that the health systems aren't overwhelmed and there are enough workers to keep doing their jobs so that the economy doesn't collapse and infrastructure doesn't start becoming unreliable.

If everyone gets it at once, that's the worst case scenario. Slow and steady - if we can make it peak in around 3 months then drop off and see it at minimal levels in 6 to 9 months, there won't be as big an impact. If we all get it next week, then the country is pretty much screwed.

Take this seriously folks - no, we aren't all going to die from it, but the economic and social impacts could be far more serious if we let it spread quickly. No need to panic, just be careful is all.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Both my parents lived through two world wars, the 1919 epidemic and the Great Depression. They had a similar attitude to what you describe, although my father did not serve in the military - in WW1 he was still in school, and WW2 he was in a protected occupation. But my mother lost three sisters and my father an aunt in 1919, and my father lost his first wife and spent several years road building on 'relief work' in the depression.

I think back to my childhood - to school books covered with used brown wrapping paper for example. And the things we simply did not have. I think we are going there over the next few years.

Bring it on. Some of the happiest days of our lives, where simple things mattered, and the consumer society and it's all - pervasive materialism hadn't taken over our lives. I totally disagree with you , by the way. You don't sound like your normal self. RUOK ?

Originally Posted by johntins

Can someone explain to me the importance of 'bacterial hand sanitiser' in combatting a virus?

An explanation.

Some viruses also have an outer envelope made of lipids, which are fatty organic molecules. The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is one of these these “enveloped” viruses. Soap can dissolve this fatty envelope, leading to the destruction of the whole virus particle. That’s one reason washing your hands with soap is so effective!

What is a virus?


What is a virus? How do they spread? How do they make us sick?

1. Lotti Tajouri Associate Professor, Biomedical Sciences, Bond University
   

Disclosure statement

Associate Professor Lotti Tajouri is affiliated with Dubai Police Scientist Council.

From the Australian Academy of Science, COVID -19 VS influenza



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