Embarrassment

[banjo]

OH yeah also i have now permantly parked my car out on the street so i can't use the excuse / na its ok you get it as by the time i start & warmed the car up & get it out & close up again.. So now i can't do this . . .

SSSHHHH dont tell anyone that i can't lock the back door . . . . . .

[Narangga]

Thanks for sharing all that - both of you.

I'm sure we'll all help out in whatever way we can - just as we have in the past.

[banjo]

Boy you are in a bad way Banjo.:eek::eek::eek:

Na i'm not getting the waxy thingy Karen is...

But i have realy enjoyed the last 2 days . . . .




:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Narangga]

Na i'm not getting the waxy thingy Karen is...

But i have realy enjoyed the last 2 days . . . .




:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Family Forum - please move on to the next topic :angel:

[drifter]

Jas

If you can keep your mind where it's at right now the two of you will work it out.

Knowing that you have seen where you went wrong and knowing that you are determined to make it right is a great start.

The response you are looking for probably won't be immediate - you have to do the hard yards to earn your place beside her - by showing that you have recognised the need to., Not just by talking it.

It's the old 'talk the talk, walk the walk' thing.

Remember when you had the dirts over the car and we talked? You and I both know you are not a quitter and, once you really make your mind up to right this wrong, you will succeed.

Just like you have grown here with us and this thread.

Go back to the start and re-read those first few posts. Look at how you have grown over the months.

Now look inside yourself. See how much more you can grow? For both of you?

You know you can do it. You both know you are not a quitter - you've just been lazy - and it's this quick, sharp lesson that Karen is giving you that you need to take note of.

Yup - go buy your smokes. And buy her some flowers - or do something nice and spontaneous for her. See how she responds over time. Earn your place back into her heart.

And make the two of you proud.

We're here to listen and try to help - but you, mate, have to do the hard yards to make it happen.

I'm cheering you on - because the Jason I know isn't going to lie down and just go 'woe is me', is going to take this lesson and work on it - and I know he will work his way through this.

:BigThumb:

[drifter]

Damn - I didn't mean to write a book.

[banjo]

I am going to feel a bit retard if i post up i got excited to go & get my own smokes by myself guys.. . . :o:(

[V8Ian]

Damn - I didn't mean to write a book.
A best seller mate, :BigThumb: Take note Jason, all the best champ. :)

[banjo]

A best seller mate, :BigThumb: Take note Jason, all the best champ. :)


Ian i got your number & i will put it in my phone a bit later & i will give you a text to say g'day in a day or so . . . :BigThumb:

[drifter]

I am going to feel a bit retard if i post up i got excited to go & get my own smokes by myself guys.. . . :o:(

We all know you well enough to know what sort of milestone it'll be mate.

Nothing but a proud moment of achievement, is all.

Do it and feel the pleasure of making that step. We'll back ya.

[drifter]

A best seller mate, :BigThumb: Take note Jason, all the best champ. :)

Cheers mate

[DiscoMick]

It's great you're talking mate, just keep doing that.
Just trust karen and don't worry about things that haven't happened and probably never will.
Keep your mind on the positives - you said there are a lot of them, so keep focussed on them and on how to make them even more positive and you'll be fine.

[Mrs banjo (fatty)]

hi everyone as i'm sure you can imagine i don't really know what to say mind is bit all over the place thanksfor all the support but.Give me couple of days

[banjo]

I am trying to keep posative . But the thing is i think Karen is going to confront the guy & tell him of her feelings ..Now from what i know of the guy i am preety sure he feels the same feelings towards Karen...Now what the hell am i going to do if this is true .I am so worried about tuesday & i will be so tense & aprehensive all day tuesdy....& i realy realy don't know what will happen after this is told to him as i said i think he has the same feeling towards Karen . . . .

[V8Ian]

You've got a week to make a difference and turn it around, stop worrying about it and do something about it.:)

[Narangga]

I am going to feel a bit retard if i post up i got excited to go & get my own smokes by myself guys.. . . :o:(

Someone once said :angel:

A walk of a thousand miles starts with one step.

On the weekend I did the front brake rotors and pads on my truck. Be a long time before I try and engine change but one day ...


I am trying to keep posative . But the thing is i think Karen is going to confront the guy & tell him of her feelings ..Now from what i know of the guy i am preety sure he feels the same feelings towards Karen...Now what the hell am i going to do if this is true .I am so worried about tuesday & i will be so tense & aprehensive all day tuesdy....& i realy realy don't know what will happen after this is told to him as i said i think he has the same feeling towards Karen . . . .

Worry is the interest you pay on troubles you haven't got. ;)

[banjo]

Worry is the interest you pay on troubles you haven't got. ;)


I realy wish use where right but i think i am...Karen said she is fighting everyday just to not go to the shop & see him....

The bloke paid her some complements & this has happend , i pay her complement every day & she just laughs them off...

Karen told him if he wouldn't do the tattoo for her she would get one of the others to do it for her Well he said like **** i do your tattoos & its bad enough i have to share you with jason as its is, That was the one that did it. & the complements he says is excactly what i tell Karen every day ..

YES i am going to keep trying & keep it up..I feel like **** today but i will be going out none the same ,Some more panadole again today try & get rid of this headache..Beeen up since 3 this morning cant sleep.. & i think come tuesday i'm going to feel like **** big time..

I dont know when i will be online again But i thank use all so much ...

[V8Ian]

Morning Jason, stop panicing and start turning your life around.

[banjo]

Well its going to be an interesting day for me today.Karen is still in bed & i have closed the room off for her so she can stay there...
Poor kids went to school with an esky sized lunch as i did it...
I just took a couple of panadole so hopefuly they will kick in soon..
I put one load of washing on the line just waiting for the next so i will do that & put the last load in so i can put it on the line when i get back..
Then by then the school traffic should of disipated ..
Then i'm going to go & DELIVER the papers, should be fun driving & throwing..
Got to have a look see if we need anything down the road as when i finish i have to go & get smokes so i may as well get anything else we need while im there...

Should be a fun day hey....

[banjo]

Geees that washing machine seems to take forever....


HAHA i should of rang aus got him out of bed he could come chuck the papers for me....

Na if Karen can do it on her own i think i can do the same....Mite just take a while....

[banjo]

Well my car is still there this morning so thats a good start for the day i spose....

Hey has anyone seen for sale anywhere the heaters that go into series 2s the round type i want to get a couple for my car as they are all complaining it doesn't have a heater & i don't want to have to go & find one of the originals for the series 3 Plus i like the older ones...

[banjo]

well karen just got up & is going off told me i shouldn't of let her sleep & wont let me go & do the papers on my own...

[banjo]

well the washing has just finished so i will go & do that & put the next load in & then i'm off to go do the papers....

SEE YAS....

[Ausfree]

Morning Banjo, glad everything is slowly working out, I see you are going to get some smokes and throw papers, ON YOUR OWN, well done. Another challenge, lets push the envelope mate, I live ten minutes away and I will be home after 1.30pm, how about coming out here for a cup of coffee???:)

[V8Ian]

Good one Jason, keep up the effort, I'm sure it will pay off. :)

[banjo]

Well back again i ****ed off while Karen was in the shower so did all the papers on my own been down got smokes..
Thanks Aus but i'm not going to push myself to that extent YET as it can have a bad efect & then we end up argueing....I will get there its just more inportant do this stuff for Karen & help out...
Thanks Ian...

Now i get to just sit around for a while mite mow the lawn later go & get the kids if it starts raining..
Huge day tomorow as its our big shopping day & i have to be carefull how far i push myself as i could make it worse...

I wish Karen would just confront the bloke & get it over & done with so we sorta know where we all stand....

But i will still worry about it all.....

Had to stop for a leek while doing the papers its not easy trying to find a spot away from anyone to take a leek...

Went to the pawn shop to have a look at a stereo for home that we seen but it was gone & was glad to get out of there cause some dirty bastard droped his guts & turned mine ...

[d@rk51d3]

Haven't read this thread in AGES.

Top effort Banjo. ;)

[banjo]

Well back again i ****ed off while Karen was in the shower so did all the papers on my own been down got smokes..
Thanks Aus but i'm not going to push myself to that extent YET as it can have a bad efect & then we end up argueing....I will get there its just more inportant do this stuff for Karen & help out...
Thanks Ian...

Now i get to just sit around for a while mite mow the lawn later go & get the kids if it starts raining..
Huge day tomorow as its our big shopping day & i have to be carefull how far i push myself as i could make it worse...

I wish Karen would just confront the bloke & get it over & done with so we sorta know where we all stand....

But i will still worry about it all.....

Had to stop for a leek while doing the papers its not easy trying to find a spot away from anyone to take a leek...

Went to the pawn shop to have a look at a stereo for home that we seen but it was gone & was glad to get out of there cause some dirty bastard droped his guts & turned mine ...


OH yeah i ment to say to it didn't kill me & i didn't get nervouse till the pawn shop dirty *****....
House work is done & Karen is out the front reading the last bit of the sunday paper....
now i'm not sure as to what to do now... Just wait & see if Karen wants to do stuff or something . . .

[banjo]

I have stoped eating through the day so i can push it & do this . Cause if i did have a panic attack i feel extreemly sick, Well use know what i'm like about throwing up . So if i don't have anything on my stomache its a bit better..
Still eating a good tea & i nibble on some chocky throught the day to help..

[V8Ian]

Make Karen a cup of tea/coffee and take it to her with some Tim Tams. ;)
Or do it for me and I'll reward you with a big sloppy kiss. :p

[banjo]

Make Karen a cup of tea/coffee and take it to her with some Tim Tams. ;)
Or do it for me and I'll reward you with a big sloppy kiss. :p

She had already beaten be to making her cuppa while i was out having a smoke when i got home..

[Ausfree]

Banj, no pressure, I will be the last person to do that, but look at this way, a couple of postings back you mentioned going for a drive and making it to Lake Road. Man, that is more than half way to my place, another couple of minutes you would have been here!!!!:D

[Ausfree]

Hey man, showing my age, I am bopping out to Roy Orbison at the moment, the guiter work is unreal and I can see KD Lang backing him up in the background!!!!:D:D

[JohnF]

Hi Banjo,

Looks like some progress has been made. It may take a little while, but while you are progressing slowly, you are making progress, John.

[Ausfree]

G'Day John, how's the chain saw going!!!!:):)

[Ausfree]

Roy Orbison is playing "In Dreams" at the moment, top song!!!!!!:D

[banjo]

Hey man, showing my age, I am bopping out to Roy Orbison at the moment, the guiter work is unreal and I can see KD Lang backing him up in the background!!!!:D:D

Roy on his own is great ...

[banjo]

Banj, no pressure, I will be the last person to do that, but look at this way, a couple of postings back you mentioned going for a drive and making it to Lake Road. Man, that is more than half way to my place, another couple of minutes you would have been here!!!!:D


Yeah i know but then if i had done that i would of had trouble doing what i have done the last few days as i would of had to push myself so hard to go that bit further...

Doing the stuff i have done in the last few days was ok as it was in the relm of what i can do & have done , I just got to lazy...

Don't worry Aus i will get there...

[Ausfree]

Banj, I am not worried, all I am doing is encouraging you to push the boundries!!!!:):)

[Ausfree]

The Big O is now playing "Pretty Women"!!!! What a song!!!:D

[banjo]

Banj, I am not worried, all I am doing is encouraging you to push the boundries!!!!:):)

Yeah i know..

[The ho har's]

Gee so much has hapened while I was sleeping and at work:o


Banjo you are doing a great job getting out like you are keep it up:D

Don't forget the small things like Ian said..making a cuppa for no good reason;) is always a good start;)

Keep pluging away and the rewards will happen;)

Mrs hh:angel:

[Grockle]

just called in to see how you are

[banjo]

Was out for nearly 2 hours on my own doing pamphlets ,Went to a couple of shops...
:D

[Narangga]

Was out for nearly 2 hours on my own doing pamphlets ,Went to a couple of shops...
:D

Great first day then. :D

[banjo]

Well after lunch today Karen went & confronted the bloke in concern..
And no he doesn't feel the same as she did & was very appolajetic & flattered & realy wants the friendship to stay & wanted Karen to book in with someone else for her tattoos but she said no i like your work & you will be doing them still..Karen feels very embarrest over it & keeps telling me she is an idiot & i can not convince her any differant..she is still booked in for tuesday with him....As soon as Karen walked in she said she new there where no feelings for him left at all she told me, But she was still strong enough to confront him & let him know, Karen said he was a little worried when she told him i knew about it . . . But he said well there must be something there as you told him & use have history together & she actualy told me she loved me today for the first time in years :D . & walked around the house from room to room since i wasn't here . But she was so pleased that she didn't have to do the papers at all, usualy takes upto 7 hours walking..
grocery shoping tomorrow & i'm going to do some as Karen said she doesn't always want me there or to do everything just start to help out some instead of doing nothing & letting her do everything..
She said she would be happy if i just driver around sometimes or just drive her to the shops doesn't meen i want you to go on your own everytime or go into the shops ...& even just drive when we are doing the pamphlets & papers ,So now we are going to drive & throw some of them & Karen is going to walk our street & the one that runs along side of it as she likes to walk some & enjoys it , Just not all of them . . .

So thats where we are . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .

[banjo]

Great first day then. :D


Sure was . i didn't get nervous so that was good..

THIRD day it was Karen hasn't had to do anything since monday . . . .

[Fluids]

Nice work Jason! Good on ya ..

.. I might just add ... don't bust yourself trying to go the whole 100 yards in 1 go ... CONSISTENCY is everything !

Understand ? .... it's not just for today, and tomorrow ... but forever ... every day :)

... a bit of staying power and a slightly more restrained effort will get you a hell of a lot further without buggering yourself.

My 0.02c

Regards to both you & Karen ... and the kids :)

Kev..

[banjo]

Karen said she would post up in a couple of days ,Probably explain it better anyway or word it better . . . . .


DID I MENTION THAT ALL HER FEELINGS FOR THE OTHER PERSON ARE GONE..:D:D I was so happy to hear it.. Karen said she was glad to & glad he didn't feel the same..But i think they will be able to grow a strong friendship for her & him. . . THIS IS KARENS TIME....

[spudfan]

The words "light" and "tunnel" seem to be comming into the picture. Might be a very long tunnel with a very faint light at the end of it but welcome all the same. Could be the odd hole hidden in the dark as you head for the light so low range 1st gear and progress hopefully will be maintained-odd bump to be expected.Regards to all the passengers,drive slowly-precious cargo.

[Ausfree]

Hey Banj, are you going shopping at Cardiff tomorrow???? Mrs Aus is going for an ultrasound at Cardiff X-Rays tomorrow at 8am and I might come along and wander around for a while, while that occurs, so I might see you then!!!:)

[banjo]

Nice work Jason! Good on ya ..

.. I might just add ... don't bust yourself trying to go the whole 100 yards in 1 go ... CONSISTENCY is everything !

Understand ? .... it's not just for today, and tomorrow ... but forever ... every day :)

... a bit of staying power and a slightly more restrained effort will get you a hell of a lot further without buggering yourself.

My 0.02c

Regards to both you & Karen ... and the kids :)

Kev..


Thats exactly what Karen said . . .

[banjo]

Hey Banj, are you going shopping at Cardiff tomorrow???? Mrs Aus is going for an ultrasound at Cardiff X-Rays tomorrow at 8am and I might come along and wander around for a while, while that occurs, so I might see you then!!!:)

Yeah we will be down there somewhere..

[banjo]

Hey Banj, are you going shopping at Cardiff tomorrow???? Mrs Aus is going for an ultrasound at Cardiff X-Rays tomorrow at 8am and I might come along and wander around for a while, while that occurs, so I might see you then!!!:)

Aren't you to late to have another kid :angel: . . . .

[Ausfree]

Just bought another couple of models on the internet (Fleabay) a 1/72 scale Landrover S3 and a 1/20 scale RangeRover remote control model, boy am I going to have fun now, can't afford a real new Rangie but at least I can pretend!!!!:)

[banjo]

Hey Aus i'm listening to slim dusty & rolf harris

WOBBLY BOOT......

[Ausfree]

Aren't you to late to have another kid :angel: . . . . I think after raising 5 kids we have had enough!!!!;)

[banjo]

Now dueling banjo's.

[Ausfree]

Hey Aus i'm listening to slim dusty & rolf harris

WOBBLY BOOT......
Nah, not my cuppa tea!!!;)

[Narangga]

Thats exactly what Karen said . . .

Credit where credit is due - smart woman!

[Ausfree]

I'll go Roy Orbison, Neal Sedaka, Neal Diamond etc!!!:)

[Ausfree]

G'Day Stuuu!!!:D

[Narangga]

G'Day Stuuu!!!:D

G'day to you too!

Say G'day to Banjo when you bump into him too ;)

[V8Ian]

Great news Banjo, how do you feel about your achievements and contribution to the relationship, as proud as we are? Mate keep up the effort and you two will be together "til death us do part" paper or not. The important thing is the effort, not the achievement; just keep giving it your very best effort. I'm so proud of you and pleased for your whole family mate. :):):)

[Fluids]

I think after raising 5 kids we have had enough!!!!;)


Whoooooaaa !!! :eek:

You ARE a brave fella!

[DiscoMick]

Hey tha's great Banjo, keep going the way you are. Remember its not the ooccasional big effort that makes the difference, its the regular little efforts that add up to something important.

[banjo]

Hey tha's great Banjo, keep going the way you are. Remember its not the ooccasional big effort that makes the difference, its the regular little efforts that add up to something important.

Yep i have been told to stay at home today as i did everything for 3 days & if i over do it it will make it worse to..
Karen just wants me to make an effort But most of all just help out....
She's still in bed she has been able to sleep in everyday this week...

[banjo]

Great news Banjo, how do you feel about your achievements and contribution to the relationship, as proud as we are? Mate keep up the effort and you two will be together "til death us do part" paper or not. The important thing is the effort, not the achievement; just keep giving it your very best effort. I'm so proud of you and pleased for your whole family mate. :):):)

Yeah its not the achievement its the fact that i did something for Karen & Karen was so pleased to not have to walk for 7 hours delivering the papers...
Karen said i have to do this slow ..Instead of when after tea when Karen has forgot to pick something up threw the day instead of just letting her go & get she told me if i just say righto grab your bag i will run you down to get it..Which i ended up doing monday night after tea on a full stomach to & no it didn't kill me & again Karen was just happy that she didn't have to drive around to do on her own...

[banjo]

All i want to do is make this beautyfull woman Happy....

[V8Ian]

You're doing well mate, just make sure you pace yourself, it's a marathon, not a sprint. We'll see you all on holiday in Queensland yet. ;)

[Ausfree]

Gotta get him to my place for a cup of coffee first Ian!!!!!:)

[V8Ian]

Gotta get him to my place for a cup of coffee first Ian!!!!!:)
White and two for me thanks Jim. ;)

[JohnF]

G'Day John, how's the chain saw going!!!!:):)

Not going yet. Top of rubber mount on a braket to the handle has a special screw which is missing, hence I have to track down one. Spent around $100 on it so far but expect it to be good.

[Ausfree]

White and two for me thanks Jim. ;)
So you are a "Standard" coffee drinker like me, Ian!!!:) Oh, nearly forgot Ian, I did get your PM the other day!!:o

[JohnF]

Just bought another couple of models on the internet (Fleabay) a 1/72 scale Landrover S3 and a 1/20 scale RangeRover remote control model, boy am I going to have fun now, can't afford a real new Rangie but at least I can pretend!!!!:)

Real Rangies, the early ones are real cheap. Would not be suprised if you found one for less than you have spent on all your models. What I cannot afford is the petrol for them.

[Ausfree]

Real Rangies, the early ones are real cheap. What I cannot afford is the petrol. Yeah I'm flat out keeping up with the thirst of a V6 Freelander, they are well known for being thirsty and I believe the LandRover V8's are worse!!!!:)

[V8Ian]

So you are a "Standard" coffee drinker like me, Ian!!!:) Oh, nearly forgot Ian, I did get your PM the other day!!:o
Yes thanks Jim, looking up eh? :):):)

[banjo]

Gotta get him to my place for a cup of coffee first Ian!!!!!:)



Ya can keep that crap i only drink tea...hot & black..

[banjo]

It ****s me to tears what most people do in everyday life is so hard for me..I just finished the lawns & thought i would go down to the paper shop & get a tattoo book to go through with Karen as she hasn't found one she likes in a buddha Plus it mite help me get my head around her going back to this guy plus i thought i would go get her pamphlets that way its 1 thing Karen doesn't need to do today......Just got the car warmed up & started turning around & the phone rang it was Karen just to let me know she will be at glendale a bit longer for a cuppa with Vickie & i looked down & noticed no fuel stuff it & parked it back up..If i went & got fuel then i wouldn't be able to go do what i was ready to do cause it threw a spanner in the works....:mad::mad::mad:.....

Plus Karen & i still need to find some time just for us but it never seems to happen anymore & Karen gets the ****s when she is home for a little while cause i am apparently 2 feet behind her all the time ..I just want to spend 5 minutes with the woman...

There is no one on this earth that could begin to know how important Karen is to me .For the last 23 years she is all i have had to keep me company , talk to , laugh with , work with , Karen is my world she is everything to me with out her i am no one she completes me to no end..
AND i just want to spend time with her..

[banjo]

Since we been in this house i haven't one good nights sleep i'm surviving on 2 to 3 hours sleep a night but in the last week or so i have only been getting about an hour..
Plus my neck is starting to get worse been getting sharp pains going across the tops of my shoulders the middle of my neck & up the back of my head.I have always had trouble with my neck its just getting worse.The last couple of days as soon as i get up iof i try & turn my head the pain nearly makes me pass out & i have had a headache for the last four days ,Think it mite be a head cold for the headache as Cody is full up with the flue i think he's trying to share it round....
I cant put my head right forward or tilt it to the sides much...
I usualy ask Karen to rub it & it helps but i'm not game to at the moment plus she doesn't like to do it cause she gets cramps in her hands from it as she has to rub so hard for me to feel it..

[banjo]

OH WELL i feel like crap & i still managed to walk up to the shop buy a pie on my own Karen has gone back out.& its the best pie ever as it was free they didn't have change for a $20....:p

[V8Ian]

Settle petal, your headache sounds like it could be caused by tension. That's not much of a surprise, you've been under pressure of late. You'll take three steps forward and one back constantly, and the path will be strewn with hazards. Just keep plodding Jason, every increment forward is in the right direction.
We all look at other people and wonder how they can make something look so easy, each of us have different talents, you would amaze some people with your mechanical and fabrication talents. Stick with it champ, you going in well. :)

[Grockle]

you'll be over here next Jas :D

ps there's a bed for you and Karen anytime

[banjo]

YAY for panadole they should kick in soon & kill the headache for a while :cool:

[bblaze]

well, back after a week away (been painting my caravan), now it it take me another week to catch up
cheers
blaze
ps
did I say that its still bloody cold

[Ausfree]

Hey BBlaze its bloody cold here too, so I can't imagine what its like down your way!!:)

[Ausfree]

Just finished watching a movie called "Green Zone" starring Matt Damon ( the Bourne fella) and guess what, there is a LandRover Defender in the movie ( a white one) but unfortunately, a crooked US polly is using it, all the good guys use the Hummers/Humvees type vehicles!!!;) Oh, well I guess LandRover got some free advertising!!:)

[banjo]

Just finished watching a movie called "Green Zone" starring Matt Damon ( the Bourne fella) and guess what, there is a LandRover Defender in the movie ( a white one) but unfortunately, a crooked US polly is using it, all the good guys use the Hummers/Humvees type vehicles!!!;) Oh, well I guess LandRover got some free advertising!!:)


Yeah it is a good movie though watched it last week . . . .

[Ausfree]

Watching another model LandRover closely on Fleabay......got it real bad haven't I!!!!;)

[banjo]

My mind is so wrong & stuffed up that i'm worried about Karen going back to get her tattoos now ..

And she has asured me there are no feelings there & no chance of them coming back .

Plus she has said she loves me .....

Why am i so stupid about this .We where talking about it earlier & i got the same feeling i did when Karen had told me about the feelings , I was so frightend that when i think about it i get the same feeling ...
THIS WILL PASS WONT IT ????????

As we where nearly heated talking about it & Karen said this isn't going to work because i know your mind so we should just end it now as this is going to be a problem for you & your never going to forget it & its going to play on you she said ..

But i am trying to convince her this wont happen & i think it will pass with me ..

And he does not share the same feelings as what Karen did ..

But she said that the feelings are all gone & wont come back . . .

[V8Ian]

Look at it logically Jason. Karen was honest with you, and told you what she thought before any one else. Give her some respect, she says she has no feelings for this guy, so SHE HAS NO FEELINGS FOR HIM. Move one mate, nothing to see here.

[DiscoMick]

Why are you even thinking about this again? She said its gone so it's gone. Stop bringing it up again. This is NOT positive.
THINK POSITIVE.

[banjo]

THANKS GUYS THIS PART OF ME HAS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM FOR ME IN THE PAST...
& I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEW TATTOO . . . .

WILL LET USE ALL KNOW HOW IT GOES ON TUESDAY . . .

[V8Ian]

THANKS GUYS THIS PART OF ME HAS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM FOR ME IN THE PAST...
& I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEW TATTOO . . . .

WILL LET USE ALL KNOW HOW IT GOES ON TUESDAY . . .
We know allready, FINE.

[banjo]

Hey guys its not going to good here i realy think my gorjess Karen want it all over & she keeps telling me this isn't going to work so why try..

BUT i will try & i wont give up & i will show her that i WILL NOT LET HER DOWN again i'll have a bad day & thats what its going to be a bad DAY not a bad week or weeks or month..I love this woman to much to hurt her again or to see her upset...

She is still in bed . but when she gets up i'm going to take her for a drive..

[DiscoMick]

Breakfast in bed?
Stay positive.

[banjo]

Breakfast in bed?
Stay positive.


Na but i did take her a cuppa when i went & woke her up cause she didn't want to sleep to long . .. .

[V8Ian]

Good on you Jason, as Mick said, stay positive. It won't be easy but it is do-able.

Got your PM thanks.

[Ausfree]

Well we have a :MileStone: today, passed Jason and Karen driving the "Green Machine" this morning, I was on my way to work to pick up a vehicle for work this arvo when I spotted the "Green Machine" going the other way with Jason driving. I flashed my headlights and Jason waved enthusiastically back to us. ( Mrs Aus was with me).
I was on my way home with a works vehicle and I passed them again going the other way, when I got home there was a note in my screen door to let me know he had been here. Shame I wasn't home for that half hour as I would have offered Jason and Karen a cup of coffee!!!:D

WELL DONE, JASON!!!!!!:D:D

[HBWC]

onya jas

[banjo]

Well we have a :MileStone: today, passed Jason and Karen driving the "Green Machine" this morning, I was on my way to work to pick up a vehicle for work this arvo when I spotted the "Green Machine" going the other way with Jason driving. I flashed my headlights and Jason waved enthusiastically back to us. ( Mrs Aus was with me).
I was on my way home with a works vehicle and I passed them again going the other way, when I got home there was a note in my screen door to let me know he had been here. Shame I wasn't home for that half hour as I would have offered Jason and Karen a cup of coffee!!!:D

WELL DONE, JASON!!!!!!:D:D


Unfortunatly it will be some time before i stay for a cuppa but i will stay long enough to say G'day..Never seen you on the way back but we where keeping an eye out.. We went to wallsend as well just for a drive then came back to Cardiff & got some parts for Karens car for rego then went down to the shops for a while walked around went to the paper shop , then we went & got some lunch & sat out the front in the sun to eat it.. Now karen has gone for a walk down the road to get smokes as we forgot them & yes i was going to get them but Karen wanted to go for a walk down there so i not argueing with her . . .Cody's playing footy at cardiff on saturday so i am going down to watch him play.....

[V8Ian]

Well done Jason, next time you go to Jim's, if he's not there feel free to drop in here for a cuppa. ;)

[JohnF]

Watching another model LandRover closely on Fleabay......got it real bad haven't I!!!!;)

yes.













If you ever decide you want a decent full size Landrover you may be able to sell you collection for enough money to buy one the way you are going Aus.

[JohnF]

Hope you'se all have a good weekend, John.

[banjo]

Well thank god i could remember your instructions Aus as Karen said left at the lights then right & best of luck cause i cant remember anything else she said & when i got to your street i said which house is it & Karen said i dont no & i didn't look in the book before hand as i never pland it. So Karen run up the side of the house & came back & said yeah this is it i can see the trampoline & there out door furniture....

WHO"S been doing wheelies on your front lawn ?

Your street is a long way in from the lights nice quiet area though....

I was going to take a pic of my car in your driveway but i forgot . . .

OH yeah your new AVON dogalog was there to . .

[Grockle]

well done Jono,say hello to Jim for me

[banjo]

We had a realy good day today went out & all that , like i already said but the best part was watching Karen laugh & smile....

[Narangga]

We had a realy good day today went out & all that , like i already said but the best part was watching Karen laugh & smile....

It will get infectious and you'll laugh & smile too ;)

Thanks for the post.

[Ausfree]

The marks in the lawn come from the stretch Limo, because of the shape of the driveway when you turn to go out the back wheels cut across the lawn and because of all the rain we have had lately, it is quite soft!!!!:)

[seano87]

Oh dear i think this is going to hurt...Where to start

...i have trouble going out to the point where i have locked myself in the bathroom in colds sweats with my heart in my throat thinking i would passout....i also have done this when i have had people coming over to visit or in this case (people offering to come & help )..it has ruined my life & my immediate family..

...you know we used to go up to our local bush...sometimes could take me an hour to get there & we only live literaly 5 min drive from it...

...So i dont deal with people to well cause if i have to leave or (hide)as such they dont understand so we just dont do it but its now realy taking its toll on the wife & kids..

i had a friend who i used to do stuff with... since he died, i havent been able to do anything realy...

...Now the best i do is going down to the local shops again 5min drive away but i do go for a walk round aldi the cheap shops & the paper shop gotta get me rover mags..but this rarely happens .karen does all my running around picking up parts & the like..

dont know how i would handle it..but if it wasnt for karen i know i would be dead she saved me..
the best thing so far is my kids..

...i can only hope that when the car is sorted i can get some part of our life back & start going back to the bush...
So we would like to say many many thanks to everyone who has offered to help...

THANKS Jason & Karen..

Jase, having always kept an eye on how you've been going throughout this thread, and admiring the guts and courage you must have to have even started this in the first place, I thought maybe it was time for us all to think back, and given the rough week or so you've had, and now a few steps forward are happening again, for you to reflect on just how far you've come since the start of the year.

Mate, seriously, I think you're a hell of guy, and I have sincere admiration of just how well you've managed to take a crap situation, and been able to look for some positives, take it one step at a time and from what I've read, make real inroads to turning your life around into something meaningful.

I'm really proud of the way it sounds like you've worked your way through the last week or so, and at the end of the day, I think you have realised what you and Karen have got is worth fighting damn hard for.

I've had the week from hell at work etc this week, but this thread helped remind me the best way forward is one step at a time, and eventually things start to improve.

Jason, as far as I'm concerned, you're a bloody legend, and I reckon you could do anything if you want it bad enough.

;)

Ahh.. and I just realised, this is post #500 for me. I don't usually post unless I have something meaningful to say, and I think this was quite fitting in a way.

[DiscoMick]

Yeah, you're moving forward Bano, well done! At this rate you'll be up for coming to London with me in November!!!:cool:

[banjo]

Jase, having always kept an eye on how you've been going throughout this thread, and admiring the guts and courage you must have to have even started this in the first place, I thought maybe it was time for us all to think back, and given the rough week or so you've had, and now a few steps forward are happening again, for you to reflect on just how far you've come since the start of the year.

Mate, seriously, I think you're a hell of guy, and I have sincere admiration of just how well you've managed to take a crap situation, and been able to look for some positives, take it one step at a time and from what I've read, make real inroads to turning your life around into something meaningful.

I'm really proud of the way it sounds like you've worked your way through the last week or so, and at the end of the day, I think you have realised what you and Karen have got is worth fighting damn hard for.

I've had the week from hell at work etc this week, but this thread helped remind me the best way forward is one step at a time, and eventually things start to improve.

Jason, as far as I'm concerned, you're a bloody legend, and I reckon you could do anything if you want it bad enough.

;)

Ahh.. and I just realised, this is post #500 for me. I don't usually post unless I have something meaningful to say, and I think this was quite fitting in a way.

Thanks Sean & thanks everyone , its been interesting to say the least this thread.
I know Karen hates me & i'm pretty sure that she feels the same way about me as some of use have said in the past we love ya jas in a blokey kinda way unfortunatly thats about as deep as it goes now. I know i have let Karen down in the past & unfortunatly i will probably do it again not as bad i garente but it will happen...She does not belive me & now has no trust in me , We now have no physical effection in our relationship & Karen has said that she doubt it will be there for quiet some time if ever & that sux as thats what we had....It used to be like i was going to bed with someone who slept nekid now its like going to bed with someone who wares a suit of armor & its been like that for a while , I don't hate , rezent or disrespect Karen for this.I do however HATE ,REZENT & DISRESPECT myself for this as Karen is the person who has done everything for me in the past & the only person to make me happy in bad times...
I can't wait till the day they workout how to do brain transplants i recon i would be there so fast & get a proper one that works the right way...

There realy is so so so much you guys don't know about what i have done to Karen cause of this problem of mine & just some of the things it actualy does to me ...

[V8Ian]

Stop thinking negative and just be the best person you can be. Trust takes time, but will slowly be built, sneaking up so that one day it will be there 100%. You have enough real problems to deal with, without creating troubles that are not there, or just may happen. Every one has recognised the enormous effort you have put in, keep trying mate, you are moving forward. You have people all over the world (literally) wanting to see a happy result. I know sometimes it feels like you're driving through mud on H/Ts, 50 kph on the speedo but only doing 5kph, but it's still moving. I have faith in you Jason.

[DiscoMick]

Banjo, I think you're exaggerating the negatives and understating the positives.
Remember, fears about the future are not real, and need never be.
Positives about the present are real now, so focus on them.
Its too late to change the past, but we can change the present, which will eventually improve the future.

[Narangga]

I can't wait till the day they workout how to do brain transplants i recon i would be there so fast & get a proper one that works the right way...


When they do can you save one for me? Cos the difference between you and most others on the forum is that you tell us how your feeling but the rest of us will almost always keep it to ourselves. There are many days when there are things in my head that make it a hard day.

Only yesterday seano87 said



I've had the week from hell at work etc this week, but this thread helped remind me the best way forward is one step at a time, and eventually things start to improve.



All of us need to keep moving one step at a time and deal with things as they come up.

However no matter how you feel please keep posting to let us know where you're at.

[drifter]

As others are saying, Banjo, focus on the positives and move forward with them.

[WhiteD3]

There realy is so so so much you guys don't know about what i have done to Karen cause of this problem of mine & just some of the things it actually does to me ...

I don't know but I can guess:) Been where you think Karen is a number of times over the years. Been told by SWMBO I'd be better off out of here too many times to count!

But from experience I know that there's a lot of people out there far worse off than you, me, Karen or my Mrs. Life's hard, the challenges and choices in life are confusing, tempting, fraught with risk and bloody heart ache.

Karen's got to have a life outside of the house, some interests that's her's alone. That's not an easy thing to do but she's got to do it. You on the other hand, have to keep working at this thing and not give up.

I'll share something with you that helps me stay grounded. One of my main occupations is to ensure (try to anyway) that my boys don't pick up anxiety "habits" from SWMBO. So I take them out, introduce them new things, places, experiences, encourage them to work things out, explain why people do things and why they don't, choice and consequence. Normal stuff Dad's do I suppose. Every few weeks we see my nephew who's now 11. His Father (my younger brother) died when the boy was 4. You can see the sadness in his eyes and his Mum's............and I think me and SWMBO have problems? Hardly!

I guess I'm trying to come up with something profound to say but that'll never happen:( All I can say is that both of you have to keep working at your problems. The alternatives, if you think them through are not good.

......and one last thing Jason........The odd paragraph would be helpful. I had to read your recent posts 5 times to get it right:wasntme: Ron, where r ya???

[Grockle]

Jas the offers always there, you've only got to pick up the phone

[banjo]

Well guys i went & watched cody play footy today for the first time this year & the last time this year, the last few games before the grandfinal are away..

Karens off to the wallsend winter fair tomorrow for a while on her own with no kids...

GUYS this will be my last post for awhile . I will keep up with everything to improov on things & win Karen back, i will drop in & have a read sometimes .
ITS just not to much fun without Karen interested or reading stuff as well . I'm realy lost at the moment & missing Karen to no end . i realy don't want to bore use with the trivial crap in my life its like i said theres so so so much i haven't told use .(not about Karen & i ) its just my problem & what it does & has done to Karen & there are a few things that just wont change for a very very long time unfortunatly..

SO everyone take care drive safe work safe live safe...

AGAIN Thankyou to everyone from us both.

I shall see yas when i see yas or chat with yas when i chat with yas...

[banjo]

Sorry if use have rang but my phone is on silent & i doubt i would talk on the phone at the moment....

[Narangga]

Deal with it how you think best mate but we are here if you need to get a bit of support now and then.

Be thinking of you both.

[banjo]

Deal with it how you think best mate but we are here if you need to get a bit of support now and then.

Be thinking of you both.

I have know idea as to what is the best way . . Its just hard enough to get Karen to talk to me . . .

[Narangga]

I have know idea as to what is the best way . . Its just hard enough to get Karen to talk to me . . .

Some people like to natter along all the time - others keep their mouth shut and think about it and then give you an answer later.

If Karen likes to think about things that's what she's doing and so she needs time and a bit of space.

It's hard for you but you will need to let her talk when she wants to. Rushing her is not going to help and will probably make things worse.

Still show her you love her by doing what you are but let her have her space to think if she needs it.

[The ho har's]

Wish the best for you and Karen..stay safe and do youre best Jason:D..we will talk/see you soon I am sure;)

Mrs hh:angel:

[Ausfree]

Well, thats it then, a lot of sorting out to do with Jason and Karen I reckon, I, like everybody else on this tread wish them all the best and as I only live ten minutes from them, will be calling in on them every now and again, to see how things are going without being too nosey!!!:) Its for them to sort out and we can only watch on the sidelines and hope for the best!!!

[V8Ian]

I think this is very apt Jason. :)

Bear Attack in Churchill, Manitoba, Canada..

These are pictures of an actual polar bear attack.

The pictures were taken while people watched and
Could do nothing to stop the attack!

Reports from the local newspaper say that
The victim will make a full recovery.


The photos are below.


















May your troubles always be smaller than
you imagine!!

[banjo]

Well i'm still here guys, wish i wasn't to a degree....It feels like Karen has had an afair with next door & says well i'm still going there for a cuppa or something like that....Still worried about tuesday just in case this bloke says something & it mite be the right thing at the right time......We still don't have made to much progress although i realy did enjoy going out all last week it was fun..not doing to much over the next couple of days as we have the pamphlets to do so don't need to go out realy although i will for something just to keep it up..Sorry if the spelling is real bad i have know idea where my head is.. STill very lost at the moment not sure what to say or do ......I have never been so frightend in my intire life as i am now......

[DiscoMick]

Not real Banjo, not real.
Reality is you had a good week, you're still together, you're healthy etc.
Focus on what's real now, and how to make it better. You can do it - we're all behind you and you're not alone.

[Ausfree]

Not real Banjo, not real.
Reality is you had a good week, you're still together, you're healthy etc.
Focus on what's real now, and how to make it better. You can do it - we're all behind you and you're not alone.
Yeah, I agree, you had a good week, that is a realty, I always think of that old saying about a half full glass.
A pessimist says it is half empty.
An opptomist says it is half full.
Banjo, you seem to dwell on the dark side an you are conjuring up future situations that may or may not exist. Life is tough enough dealing with realty without dealing with an imagined bad situation that has not occurred.
You are going through a bad time at the moment, time for a deep breath mate and focus on the good things. We all have our down moments (boy, tell me about that one) and I would suggest you go back and reread my original posting on this thread to see what I have been through.
Now, I am not trying to make myself out as some sort of hero, all I am trying to do is trying to get you to get a grip on what is real and what is imagined. As you can see, other people go through bad times too and everybody handles it differently.


BANJO, YOU HAVE HAD A GOOD WEEK THAT IS A REALTY!!!!!:D:D

[Ausfree]

YOU SAID YOURSELF IT WAS FUN GOING OUT. FOCUS ON THAT!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[V8Ian]

Stop thinking negative and just be the best person you can be. Trust takes time, but will slowly be built, sneaking up so that one day it will be there 100%. You have enough real problems to deal with, without creating troubles that are not there, or just may happen. Every one has recognised the enormous effort you have put in, keep trying mate, you are moving forward. You have people all over the world (literally) wanting to see a happy result. I know sometimes it feels like you're driving through mud on H/Ts, 50 kph on the speedo but only doing 5kph, but it's still moving. I have faith in you Jason.
Mate, focus on the real problems; you're wasting time on imagined and percieved problems, time that could be spent on actual problems. Karen has been honest about her feelings, she won't stop being so with the neighbour or anyone else. C'mon Jason, pick yourself up by the bootstraps and chip away at the real problem, we know you can do it, you know you can do it, no one believes it will be simple though.

You said you enjoyed last week, that's only the beginning mate.

[JohnF]

I think this is very apt Jason. :)

Bear Attack in Churchill, Manitoba, Canada..

These are pictures of an actual polar bear attack.

The pictures were taken while people watched and
Could do nothing to stop the attack!

Reports from the local newspaper say that
The victim will make a full recovery.


The photos are below.







May your troubles always be smaller than
you imagine!!

I really like this one and am going to e-mail it to friends who are not forum members. Its a valuable lesson for all of us, Johnf.

[banjo]

Well i went out on my own again & got the pamphlets & took a DVD back then came home & we folded the pamphlets & got them delivered aswell...

Yes i am have trouble with the feelings isue as Karen has been my everything for the last 23 years the only thing the poor woman hasn't had to do is whipe me ****ing ass... ...You don't think how much i like knowing what i have done in the past everything i am i owe it to Karen fully...
Now when someone tryes to chat Karen up i **** i know that anyone else could & can offer her compered to what i do what i am ..Completely normal men have so much to offer her & it frightens me to death .And i want so much better for her & the kids (normality) ..

I will get over it & i will deal with it . And i will learn to let her go for her days out & to the gym . Because i want to make her happy .. I will be ok tomorrow after her tattoo & Karen will come home & tell me everything what was said & what they chated about as thats what Karen does & i love to listen to her stories of what went on i always have cause i love to see her excited , Happy & laughing while she tells me ..she is worried about tomorrow as well cause she tells me she feels like an idiot & very embarrest about it .....


AND I MOST OF ALL KNOW KAREN CHOSE ME OVER ANYONE ELSE SO I WILL BE OK & I WILL BE SUCKING IT UP TO SEE HER HAPPY ..

Karen know what i'm like & will work through it with me so i don't make her cry anymore & i want her to have her time with friends & at the gym ..

Use can help me with that & take my mind off such things ...

AUS i will get to your place by myself oneday its just i wont be able to stay for awhile but once i have done it a few times it will get better & i mite even stay for a cuppa of tea not your coffee crap . . . ..

Karen has told me she doesn't want to try anymore & she isn't strong enough to go through it again & it kills me to hear it..

I love Karens company & to just chat with her & i cant she doesn't want it .

she wants to be left alone so i'm sitting here listening to music on my phone so as i leave her alone , its hard to watch her & the kids laughing & not be able to join in & make her laugh....


I relie on karen to much & i know this is all my fault & i want to fix it properly & make her happy . . ..
I don't want to go back to my mothers cause i can't even go for a shower with out her walking in theres no privacy what so ever plus worse crap ..
I don't want to go back go back to my Fathers & be in his incest crap & i would be pushed so hard to get out & work & then he they would take it anyway . .
So my othe i'm going to try my guts out to fix this for Karen & the kids although the kids still drive us mad at the moment....
I would just love to sit & chat with Karen about anything or anyone . neither of us have anyone to talk to so i just spill on here but poor Karen has no one except Vickie but she is my cousin & Karens best friend so she feels bad for both of us & doesn't want to interfeer....


And i probably shouldn't post up so much but hey i gotta get it out of my head someway....


I can't cheer Karen up anyway which is bad cause we used to laugh & muck around together & kills me that i can't help but to make her cry i want to make her smile & laugh....


My mother called in today as she does every monday before she goes ten pin bowling & all she was worried about was getting freezer from aldi & how she would get it into the car.. Completely not interested in our struggles & she thinks if i go back to her place she can get the careres pension to look after me but she wont do anything for me at all she's all about the money..



I miss my lovely Karen very much ...

[DiscoMick]

So, tell me again why you're thinking about going back to your parents' places?
Stop thinking like a victim. You're not a victim - you're in charge of your life.
Just focus on the best of the present and making it even better.

[WhiteD3]

Well i went out on my own again & got the pamphlets & took a DVD back then came home & we folded the pamphlets & got them delivered aswell...

Excellent


Yes i am have trouble with the feelings issue as Karen has been my everything for the last 23 years the only thing the poor woman hasn't had to do is whipe me ****ing ass... ......

Maybe she didn't, but she's been there for 23 years so you must be doing something right!


Now when someone tryes to chat Karen up i **** i know that anyone else could & can offer her compared to what i do what i am

George Cloony I'm not and I doubt too many of us here are...so you're in no different position then the rest of us in this respect.


Completely normal men have so much to offer her & it frightens me to death .And i want so much better for her & the kids (normality) .. Define normal please. By Normal you mean those without anxiety problems. So drunks, wife beaters, cheaters, gamblers, workaholics, etc are ok? Mate, we "normal" blokes all have our problems.



AND I MOST OF ALL KNOW KAREN CHOSE ME OVER ANYONE ELSE SO I WILL BE OK & I WILL BE SUCKING IT UP TO SEE HER HAPPY ..

Now you're talking. That's what we (Men, husbands) all do:D



I miss my lovely Karen very much ...

So keep trying....

She's allowed to crack every now and again. Everyone does...it's good for the soul.

[V8Ian]

Ain't that the truth White. :angel:

[Ausfree]

So, tell me again why you're thinking about going back to your parents' places?
Stop thinking like a victim. You're not a victim - you're in charge of your life.
Just focus on the best of the present and making it even better.

Yeah Banj, I agree with DiscoMick how did "going back to your mother" come into the equation. No way would I want to go back to my parents at 38 years of age thats for sure.
Can I say this, you have Karen locked in Golden Cage up on this pedestal, which I might add increases pressure on her, nobody likes to feel trapped in a cage. You can show your love by opening the door of that cage and letting her have her personal space. That would be the best present you can give her. You are starting to think in that direction, I can see by your postings, but man GIVE HER SOME PERSONAL SPACE!!!:):D

[banjo]

Well Karen got a call from the tattoo shop this morning about 10.30 to say they had a cancelation & she could come down now, So she did she felt a little uncomfortable about going there but the guy made her feel at ease & was real good to her cause she was very embarrest & nervouse but all good , She hasn't booked in for another one yet but will much latter when we find one for her that we both like:D ......

So i went out on my own again i went & got our papers & came back home & started to fold & bag them , Had most of them done before Karen got home just a few to bag .So we had lunch & finished them off .Then Karen went & picked up the spogs from school..

I am just having a cuppa then i will go load them all into her car so we can deliver them in the morning..I also have to check my car as the roof is leaking & its dripping onto my overhead consol which is just covered MDF if its still a bit bad i will have to move it back into the yard where it sits fairly level....:mad:...

Me i'm fine about today was even happier to hear that Karen hasn't booked in yet so we can find one we both like.....

[Ausfree]

Hey Banj, I was up at Charlestown today and I had half an hour to kill, so I wandered into the library up there. Guess what, they have a Haynes manual on the Series 1 on the shelf, a bit dog eared and looking worse for wear, but I couldn't believe it. No other model Landy repair manuals though. plenty for the Jap crap!!!!:):)

[The ho har's]

Good to hear jason...keep up the good work and stay positive;)

Mrs hh:angel:

[V8Ian]

Hey Banj, I was up at Charlestown today and I had half an hour to kill, so I wandered into the library up there. Guess what, they have a Haynes manual on the Series 1 on the shelf, a bit dog eared and looking worse for wear, but I couldn't believe it. No other model Landy repair manuals though. plenty for the Jap crap!!!!:):)
What would you expect, it's for a Freebee One. ;)

Did you check the chapter on placing them on hoists? :p
:twisted::twisted::twisted:

Hi Jason, aren't you glad you didn't waste time worrying about something that ended up as nothing. There's a lesson in there mate. :D

[Ausfree]

Ummm!!! Ian, that is a LandRover SERIES 1.:eek: You know leaf springs and all that!!!!:tease:

[V8Ian]

Ummm!!! Ian, that is a LandRover SERIES 1.:eek: You know leaf springs and all that!!!!:tease:
:(:angel::TakeABow:

[seano87]

Jason, I have a little tale to tell you, from work yesterday afternoon - just for a little bit of perspective on life and relationships. It's a sad tale, so consider yourself forewarned!

I received a phone call quite late into the day (I was ready to go leave to go home in about 15-20mins time) from the Intensive Care Unit of the hospital for an urgent scan - now, as soon as I knew it was someone from ICU, I knew what test they would be wanting from us that they couldn't wait until the next day for - it was a test to evaluate for brain death.

Now, I've been involved in a couple of these now, and as you can probably appreciate they are just awful, there really are no words to describe what it feels like to see a patient come down with all the life support stuff attached, and know that from a medical perspective they are still alive, but the simple fact of the matter is that when they come for this scan, they almost always will be leaving as dead. As you can imagine, pretty gut-wrenching to be involved in.

Anyway, to relate it back to you, and thus the whole point of it all - it was a quite young patient, a lady in her early 30's. Her husband came down by her side. They both had lots of tatts which I guess is why I thought of you and Karen in the first place - anyway, I talked to her husband whilst we did the scan, and he said that she had left the house after an argument they'd had about him suspecting she'd been off with a mutual friend - she'd collapsed whilst out, was taken to hospital and suffered basically a massive stroke.

I guess the point of this little tale is - **** the past, concentrate on the future, and at the end of the day, make sure everyone you care about knows how you feel, and just make the most of now, because there may not be a tommorow for you to tell the person you love how you feel, and most of all, no regrets, learn and move on.

I learnt the no regrets thing quite early - when I was a bit younger, I went through a few lots of heart surgery, and had to be ressucitated at one point. After that experience, I know what it feels like for any day to be your last, so you make the most of it, and don't dwell on the past, I just make the most of now and the future.

Now, in my little story above, the ending is only improved by the fact that she was an organ donor, and all the organs looked to be unaffected.

For everyone else reading, I guess everyone could use it to put some things in perspective.

I'm obviously pretty shaken by it - I'm only human after all, but I also know the situation could have been worse, some other reasons we've done this scan in the past - drivers racing each other or just someone driving recklessly and hitting a tree/post etc., people playing with guns and accidentally shooting themself or someone else in the head. I guess life really is a fragile thing and we have to make the most of it, both for ourselves, and those around us.

I know I'll be telling my partner that I love her tonight, and for her to make sure she knows how I feel, despite our ups and downs.

[banjo]

Ummm!!! Ian, that is a LandRover SERIES 1.:eek: You know leaf springs and all that!!!!:tease:



WHAT a real landy . . . .

[Narangga]

WHAT a real landy . . . .

No it should be:

What - a REAL Landy?

[Ausfree]

Banjo, that sad story from Sean87, makes memories come flooding back to me of that fatefull night in May 1974 when my first wife suffered a massive asthma attack and literally collapsed in my arms, her last words to me were "Jim, I can't breath". She collapsed onto the floor of our house and I tried to give her mouth to mouth. She turned blue and in a panic I rang the ambulance and she was taken to Royal Newcastle Hospital and placed on life support. She was in a coma for a week and the doctors told me that because of the lack of oxygen to her brain, even if she recovers, she will be a vegetable. I was absolutely devastated ( and I still have flashbacks and nightmares about it).
She died a couple of days later without recovering and she was only 27 years of age, hadn't even lived yet.
I guess what I am trying to do is reinforce Sean's message and my favourite sayings nowadays are "Nothing is set in concrete" and " Everything is temporary".
Another thing too, is my daughter who was only 6 at the time saw this and it has badly effected her too. My son who was a baby at the time does not remember his mum and it has badly effected him also, he has a tattoo on his arm with his mums name and the dates 1946to 1974.:(

Banjo................................... enjoy what you have got while you have got it, it is all only temporary.:(

[banjo]

Well i left Karen to sleep in a bit this morning & i got the washing done ..Woke Karen up at 8.30 so she could have a shower & once ready we went & delivered the papers, had to come home for a squirt when we got them done & found one of our window ornings just hanging there so had to get that off..Then back out again to the RTA the put the rego on Karens car then went & looked at some trailers found a new place just round the back from us.. Then went down the road for bread , Ended up finaly going into the new woollies for the first time, i dont think Karen was to happy only went in to get some ham for lunch came out with some jam donuts, some new to us italian bread things you just toast up (nice) some dog food.. Went to aldi & the video shop all on foot so surprised Karen there parked in the middle & walked to all of them with her . . . . . :D:D

[DiscoMick]

Well done!

[Narangga]

Well done!

Bl**dy well done actually ;)

[Fluids]

:thumbsup:

It's not hard once you make the effort.

... and then it gets easier ... bit by bit. :)

Kev..

[Narangga]

:thumbsup:

It's not hard once you make the effort.

... and then it gets easier ... bit by bit. :)

Kev..

Sounds like living with a Land Rover :D

[V8Ian]

Like Kev said, Jason, it gets easier. Remember how hard it was when you started this thread? There's now barely two hours between posts, proving Kev's point. Keep it up mate, we're all behind you. :)

[banjo]

Day at home tomorrow Karen is going shopping , Plus clothe shopping so i will pass on that one thanks...

[Narangga]

Day at home tomorrow Karen is going shopping , Plus clothe shopping so i will pass on that one thanks...

:Rolling: :Rolling: :Rolling:

[banjo]

Karen & i have sorted quiet a bit out & getting on well now.. Just a few things to finish off & we will be good . . .
Starting to get a little time to ourselves to chat & laugh its great ..& i'm not going to let her down again......
I been talking of going away even just over night would be great if i can do that . . . . . . .

Still had it up to the eyes with the kids freds getting real smart assy to us both & cody just doesn't listen to anything . . . . . . . .

I am just enjoying holding Karen & reasuring her & reconecting its great & Karen has been smilling & laughing , its good as its just us . . . . .

Took Karen to the 2 local gyms late yesterday to have a look that was good for her , I just built up a sweat watching people on all the thingy magingy's , I think its called e x e r c i s e . . . . . .Doesn't look real good everyone looked so worn out ...

[V8Ian]

Karen & i have sorted quiet a bit out & getting on well now.. Just a few things to finish off & we will be good . . .
Starting to get a little time to ourselves to chat & laugh its great ..& i'm not going to let her down again......
I been talking of going away even just over night would be great if i can do that . . . . . . .

Still had it up to the eyes with the kids freds getting real smart assy to us both & cody just doesn't listen to anything . . . . . . . .

I am just enjoying holding Karen & reasuring her & reconecting its great & Karen has been smilling & laughing , its good as its just us . . . . .

Took Karen to the 2 local gyms late yesterday to have a look that was good for her , I just built up a sweat watching people on all the thingy magingy's , I think its called e x e r c i s e . . . . . .Doesn't look real good everyone looked so worn out ...Mate, make sure you can walk before you try running. I think it's a great idea for the future, but are you ready yet?

[Fluids]

Day at home tomorrow Karen is going shopping , Plus clothe shopping so i will pass on that one thanks...

... and that's EXACTLY what any red blooded Aussie Man should say ;)

CLOTHES SHOPPING ?? ... c'ya when you get home dear ! :D

Kev..

(but then you DO have to sit patiently while she shows you all the new fashions she's purchased ... that's the important bit you need to do for NOT going clothes shopping with her ... :)

[seano87]

Day at home tomorrow Karen is going shopping , Plus clothe shopping so i will pass on that one thanks...

Depends... if it was lingerie clothes shopping, there is a chance I *might* be able to coerced into going along :angel:

[Fluids]

Depends... if it was lingerie clothes shopping, there is a chance I *might* be able to coerced into going along :angel:

... nah, more reason to stay home and wait patiently for the fashion parade !

:cool:

Kev..

[The ho har's]

Depends... if it was lingerie clothes shopping, there is a chance I *might* be able to coerced into going along :angel:


... nah, more reason to stay home and wait patiently for the fashion parade !

:cool:

Kev..


boys boys boys...BEHAVE:eek:;):p:D

Mrs hh:angel:

[Ausfree]

Karen & i have sorted quiet a bit out & getting on well now.. Just a few things to finish off & we will be good . . .
Starting to get a little time to ourselves to chat & laugh its great ..& i'm not going to let her down again......
I been talking of going away even just over night would be great if i can do that . . . . . . .

Still had it up to the eyes with the kids freds getting real smart assy to us both & cody just doesn't listen to anything . . . . . . . .

I am just enjoying holding Karen & reasuring her & reconecting its great & Karen has been smilling & laughing , its good as its just us . . . . .

Took Karen to the 2 local gyms late yesterday to have a look that was good for her , I just built up a sweat watching people on all the thingy magingy's , I think its called e x e r c i s e . . . . . .Doesn't look real good everyone looked so worn out ... Banjo, that is part of growing up, I think I mentioned to you before that kids turn into Aliens at about 12 or 13 and don't come back to Earth until they are in their early twenties.
They think they know it all and their parents know nothing then when they grow through this stage (ie early 20's) they realise you are not working against them but in their best interests!!!:)

[JohnF]

I think this is very apt Jason. :)

Bear Attack in Churchill, Manitoba, Canada..

These are pictures of an actual polar bear attack.

The pictures were taken while people watched and
Could do nothing to stop the attack!

Reports from the local newspaper say that
The victim will make a full recovery.

The photos are below.


May your troubles always be smaller than
you imagine!!

And though your troubles are almost always smaller than you think, if they are not someone will help you survive the terible situation.

Polar bear attacks camper in his tent and drags him 130ft by his head | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1299362/Polar-bear-attacks-camper-tent-drags-130ft-head.html#ixzz0vZmkuAeq)

[Ausfree]

Hey Banj, following my phone call to you last night I did go to Autopro at Warners Bay today and they do have the extractor you mentioned for getting the oil out of the rear diff. Cost is $38, so I will pick up one next week or so!!:)

[banjo]

Hey Banj, following my phone call to you last night I did go to Autopro at Warners Bay today and they do have the extractor you mentioned for getting the oil out of the rear diff. Cost is $38, so I will pick up one next week or so!!:)


I think autobarn has one cheaper will check in the next couple of days...

[Ausfree]

I think autobarn has one cheaper will check in the next couple of days... Hangon ,it might be Autobarn, its the one in the new area up Hillsborough road!!!:) On the right hand side as you go up the hill!!!:)

[Narangga]

Hangon ,it might be Autobarn, its the one in the new area up Hillsborough road!!!:) On the right hand side as you go up the hill!!!:)

Make sure you are not 'over the hill'. It's all downhill from there ;)

[V8Ian]

Thank-you for your valuable input and that little gem of wisdom, Dale. :p

[banjo]

Well went for a drive by myself today while Karen was out cleaning the house that she does ..Didn't go far just a lap down the road & then went up to the industrial area for a look then home .. Just to keep it going..
Then went down the road with Karen for a bit when she came home.. Then ran her down the road later this arvo to pick up some stuff she forgot.. Been home since..

Going out to Edgeworth Macas at 5.30 in the morning with Karen to drop Cody at the bus they use for footy as they are going to Scone to play .
Then i will probably just be at home till its time to go & pick him up in the arvo..
mite get the paper while were out there was some campers in there last week & i forgot to ring up about them & if i'm lucky they mite be in there again . . . .

[Narangga]

Keep that up and you'll have more in's and out's than a one day cricket match :D



Good onya tho'.

[Grockle]

nice one Jas

[Ausfree]

Yeah Banj, I saw you in the "Green Machine" at Cardiff, its difficult to recognise me, because every time I see you I'm in a different vehicle!!!:D

[banjo]

Yeah Banj, I saw you in the "Green Machine" at Cardiff, its difficult to recognise me, because every time I see you I'm in a different vehicle!!!:D

We always try to keep an eye out for you but yeah you can be a bit hard to spot sometimes..

Was i on my own then . . .

[Ausfree]

I would come down to Edgy Maccas to say "G'Day" but not at 5.30 in the morning, I will still be counting the old ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ's!!!!!:zzz: Nearly forgot, yes you were on your own, when I saw you!!!

[V8Ian]

Good one Jason, small steps to build up your confidence. :):):)

[banjo]

Well i was up at 5.30 this morning got ready & left at 6.00 to take Cody out to meet the bus at edgeworth macas..Karen didn't think i was going to take them but i did..Back to pick him up some time after lunch about 2.30 , 3.00 this arvo..It was bloody cold in the landy this morning no heater in it..I met one of the other parents a lady she was nice can't remember her name she was the only one Karen introduced me to, spoke to a couple of other people don't know who they where but they where parents of other players (i hope)...OH did i mention how bloody cold the landy is of a morning...

[banjo]

I am enjoying myself doing all this for Karen,,Although i felt like crap this morning but i managed to push through it ...:eek:

[banjo]

Karen went back to bed at 8 so i will wake her later see if she is in a better mood she is not a morning person at all..

Got the paper on the way home thismorning but nothing in it as usual...

[Ausfree]

Well, we have the Grandkids over again this weekend, so I suppose I won't get near the computer much!!!:)

[banjo]

Have you got a big weekend with work Aus . . . .

[Fluids]

Good one ! Keep it up Jas' !!

Mrs Fluids get up for work every morning at 5am ... she reckons it's NOT warm at that time of the morning !

... me, I subscribe to Jims philosophy .... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :)

Kev..

[Ausfree]

Have you got a big weekend with work Aus . . . .
YUP!!!!;)

[Fluids]

A big weekend of kiddies ?

[V8Ian]

Good onya Jason, we're all backing you mate. :)

[Sleepy]

G'day Jason and fellow embaressments. Just thought I'd drop a quick hello. Lifes been pretty busy down here in Mexico , doing 50 hour+ weeks, not much time for aulro after all that! hope you have all been well. Read back a few pages - sounds like you should write a book jas! Hang in there mate

[V8Ian]

Hi Paul, you have been missed....................that's not neccessarally in a good way. :p

[banjo]

Well i think i have now created another problem now. Karen's not realy talking to me a great deal & to top it off she is depressed & not handling me doing everything ..But i don't think i'm doing everything she still has to do alot.I'm just doing some running her around & done the deliveries once on my own & i have picked up the papers & pamphlets a couple of times on my own but Karen has been doing stuff thats why i picked them up so she didn't still have to do it on top of what she was already doing. But what i have done seems to be to much, now i'm worried that if i stop a bit i mite slip & Karen has told me she expects me to slip a little & she says she doesn't expect miricals just a bit of help ....Plus Karen's not eating & when she does if she eats to much which isn't much she can't keep it down so i am very worried about her ..We have a doctors appointment on monday which i don't think she wants me to go with her , I'll wait in the car if she likes....


I am starting to think she wants out & i not to sure what to do..She tells me differant but its hard . .


But i am very concerned about Karens health in all this....


:(:(:(:BigCry::BigCry::BigCry:

[V8Ian]

Come on Jason, get your act together. Stop worrying about what might happen. We all know, Karen included, the effort you have put in and the successes you have had. Ask Karen what she wants, and discuss things with her, come to joint decisions and keep the fantastic effort going. You and Karen are a team, and all good teams work to each others strengths and weaknesses, and consult. There is no 'I' in team. Mate, you've probabley overwhelmed the poor girl, talk thing over with her. We're still supporting you both. :)

[Narangga]

Mate in many ways you have really turned things around big time - and for Karen that may take a bit of getting used to.

Remember its not only for youself that you need to take things slowly its for her too. She's had to do a fair bit for a long time and now things have changed and sort of changed pretty quickly.

Any sort of change can make us feel uncertain and unsure of the here and now (and also the future) because what is happening today is different to what happened yesterday. I'm sure Karen is no different because you have had an amazing week.

We all know you love Karen from all the things you said about her. I once heard a definition of love as being "An intelligent willingness to what is right for the other person".

Jason you are intelligent so as Ian said talk, it through together and walk it through together - at the same pace as each other. One day or week you'll be in front and need to slow down for her and the next she'll probably need to slow down for her but because it is love, then you'll do it - together.

Keep up the good work. :BigThumb:

[banjo]

Karen has ne feelings for me anymore , she has told me that..

I will keep up with everything as i have enjoyed it so much & shocked the **** out of myself the day i drove to Aus's house & to get up & take Cody to meet the bus was awesome & i could see in his face how much he liked it ..
Yes i know i will have a bad day & no i haven't realy thought about it i just know it will happen & when it does i will be trying so hard to push through it ..
Karen has said she feels very useless now & feels so bad not to have feelings for me & even feels worse for having felt & starting to fall for someone else & she felt so uncomfortable to go back there (which i liked to a degree) & feel bad for that feeling ..I stoped chating to that old girlfriend that had been intouch with me as everyone kept telling me she was a stalker & she just kept texting me , So i stopped as Karen is so much more important to me than to have her feel bad if i kept chatting to the girl so i just text her G'day if she does text me & thats it Karen is to important to me & her feelings are way more important to me ...So i decided to stop chatting to her...



Did i mention how much fun i have had over the last 2 weeks going out,& i know i didn't go to far on my own BUT i did it on my own & am enjoying it so much.....

[banjo]

The thing that gets to me the most is the crap i have put this beautifull woman through already & i didn't mean to at all ..She has such a huge HEART & is so strong mentaly,physicaly & emotionaly she has kept us all to gether for so long & i feel so bad for this ..I watched Karen help pull Micayla through a very hard time when she was having some troubles like mine & wouldn't leave the house & lost some friends over it BUT gained a true friend out of it Micayla did ....She is a one of a kind woman in every sence.....

[V8Ian]

Karen is probabley confused about her role and feelings, she still has feelings for you (despite saying not) or she wouldn't feel bad. Your relationship will change, but that doesn't mean it will be bad or fall apart. Keep talking to her, find out what she wants you to do and not to do. She will never be useless, there are some things that that you will never do better than her. The kids are growing up, and Karen's not needed to be the nuturing mummy she's used to being. Horemones change as we get older too, just to make things interesting. The dynamics of your relationship and situation are changing, communication, tolerence and patiense is the key.

[banjo]

OK again tell me why i shouldn't be worried about Karen going back to the tattoo shop ..She went out today to take some shorts of mine back & stoped back at Cardiff to get some ham for lunch,
& guees where the only park was,Yep right out side the tattoo shop & guess who was working & out the front yep her tattooist ..
She said G'day & went on her way to woollies but when she came home has said yes there are some feelings for him & no feelings for me,& she doesn't think we are worth fighting for & she know she can't have the tattooist as he is married & does not have any feelings for her.
I want to say to her don't go near the tattoo shop & DON'T go near the tattooist but i can't do that to her. & Karen has said thats what she needs to do.....
I am trying & i will always will try as Karen meens the world to me & we have 23 years together with all that history..
He has changed her feelings for me after 23 years in such a short time a matter of hours .
I have been trying for 2 weeks & i don't expect that will be enough But it hasn't changed Karens feelings towards me after 23 years even Karen said that should say something....


Karen keeps telling me its to late & that i should hate her for it but i don't as i know how much crap i have put her through in the past & i probably deserve this ...


WHAT THE **** DO I DO ?


I am so frightend at the moment. i even asked if she wanted to go away for a few days ,She says no because i probably wont like her answer when she comes back..


Karens says there are no feeling there for me & there is no physical feelings towards me anymore & says she doesn't know if she wants me or loves me or if any of it will come back..
But if she keeps seeing or running into the tattooist this is whats going to happen she will keep her feelings for him.. She went & sat with him on tuesday for a few hours while she got her tattoo on her other boob & came home & said there where no feelings for him BUT after running into him for a few mins today she says they are still there she thinks...
I can not cheer her up in anyway ....


HELP ME


if you have Karens number give her a text that mite cheer her up although she says she doesn't want to talk to anyone i don't even think she wants to talk to me anymore as i seem to make it worse for her..




WHAT THE HELL HAVE I DONE TO THIS BEAUTIFUL WOMAN & WHAT AM I DOING SO WRONG ?

[banjo]

I have asked Karen to post as she can tell it from her side better than i could & she said she would later.....




SO FRIGHTEND.
:(:(:(

[banjo]

Karen meens so much to me & i want to make her so happy & proud of me but everything i do seems wrong . . . All i want is for Karen to be happy...

[Narangga]

WHAT THE HELL HAVE I DONE TO THIS BEAUTIFUL WOMAN & WHAT AM I DOING SO WRONG ?

Tomorrow it is 8 months since you put the first post up. 8 months.

The last 2 weeks you've been running around like a blue a** fly - but that didn't start in Feb - it took a while.

Rome wasn't built in a day but it came tumbling down pretty quick - just like Karen has.

As I said - Love is an intelligent willingness to do what is righ for Karen so love her and give her space, time and keep talking with her about the things she wants you to do.

And keep letting us know how you feel too - that's also important.

[banjo]

Tomorrow it is 8 months since you put the first post up. 8 months.

The last 2 weeks you've been running around like a blue a** fly - but that didn't start in Feb - it took a while.

Rome wasn't built in a day but it came tumbling down pretty quick - just like Karen has.

As I said - Love is an intelligent willingness to do what is righ for Karen so love her and give her space, time and keep talking with her about the things she wants you to do.

And keep letting us know how you feel too - that's also important.


I feel like **** as i am the one who has caused Karen so much hurt & brought her to where she is now . I ONLY HAVE MYSELF TO BLAME..

[Narangga]

I feel like **** as i am the one who has caused Karen so much hurt & brought her to where she is now . I ONLY HAVE MYSELF TO BLAME..

Maybe - but you are also the one to take the bull by the horns and do the things that will help turn it all around.

Take time, give her space and keep asking what things she would like you to help out with.

Remember it was 8 months for you to be able to do what you did in the last 2 weeks so as much as you want it to be back to normal tomorrow, it will take time.

Your Landy is fine again - but did you fix that overnight????? Hang in there.

[banjo]

Well now Karen doesn't want me to work at it anymore .says she doesn't want to be in a marrige with no sex or feelings or stuff cant remember what i was going to write..

Karen is very depressed at the moment & i think its having an efect with her....

I know i want to work it out & i want to work at everything i'm doing I want to be able to do more for Karen ,She doesn't want to put me through this but i think differant...& i recon we can work through it & get it sorted........

Karen needs someone to talk to besides me . . . . . :(

Karen thinks she is a dryed out old woman. & she feels so tiered . .. . ....

Now i know differant there . . . . . .
Run down yes but not dryed out at all......

[Narangga]

Karen is very depressed at the moment & i think its having an efect with her....



Yep I'm sure it is.

She has eased up a bit and know realised how tired she is - emotionally, mentally etc.

That's why you need to support her as much as you can - like she has done for you.

[Ausfree]

Well, the Grandkids have left and I have my 'puter back at last. I see you are going through another low period Banjo, hang in there mate and think positive thoughts..........the glass is always half full.............the glass is always half full........the glass is NEVER half empty!!!!:D

[banjo]

I know & i thankyou all for your surport .I am very worried about Karens health at the moment . . She thinks she mite be going through menapoors & i know nothing about it to help her . . . . . . .:mad: I want to surport he through it if it is that but she recons if that is what it is she is going ,as she says no i wont put you through it...she is worried that her feelings for me wont come back in every sence...

[Ausfree]

Banj, if you suspect early "change of life" she needs to go a Doctor to confirm this, speaking from personal experience this is a difficult time for a woman but there are drugs out there that can reduce the symptons. Note that I said REDUCE. Without wanting to turn this thread into a health advice column for women it is a difficult time with hot flushes and extreme mood swings so I do suggest a trip to the family GP.

Cheers mate!!!:)

[banjo]

Banj, if you suspect early "change of life" she needs to go a Doctor to confirm this, speaking from personal experience this is a difficult time for a woman but there are drugs out there that can reduce the symptons. Note that I said REDUCE. Without wanting to turn this thread into a health advice column for women it is a difficult time with hot flushes and extreme mood swings so I do suggest a trip to the family GP.

Cheers mate!!!:)

Yeah we have an appointment for tomorrow afternoon....

[V8Ian]

Banj, if you suspect early "change of life" she needs to go a Doctor to confirm this, speaking from personal experience this is a difficult time for a woman but there are drugs out there that can reduce the symptons. Note that I said REDUCE. Without wanting to turn this thread into a health advice column for women it is a difficult time with hot flushes and extreme mood swings so I do suggest a trip to the family GP.

Cheers mate!!!:)
Jim, the politically correct term is 'power surge'. :p

[banjo]

Jim, the politically correct term is 'power surge'. :p






:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:.

[Ausfree]

Jim, the politically correct term is 'power surge'. :p Its power failure Ian, the "spark of enthusiasm" goes out!!!:whistling:

[The ho har's]

Its power failure Ian, the "spark of enthusiasm" goes out!!!:whistling:


NO you are all wrong...tropical moment..is what it is called....and who is going to question a woman about this:eek::o:p;):D:D


Mrs hh:angel:

[Ausfree]

NO you are all wrong...tropical moment..is what it is called....and who is going to question a woman about this:eek::o:p;):D:D


Mrs hh:angel: Not me Mrs HH, not me!!!!:eek::angel:

[V8Ian]

Not me Mrs HH, not me!!!!:eek::angel:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-Animals-Smileys.html)

[Didge]

Sounds like good news to me that you might have found a reason for Karen's feelings. Wise move going to the family doc. Good luck and really hope you get a good solution.

[DiscoMick]

Just keep being positive Banjo and don't worry about things that might happen, but probably won't.
Remember, ultimately, our happiness doesn't depend on another person liking us - it only depends on us.
You have to wake up in the morning, look in the mirror, and like who you see. After that, everything else is an extra.

[JohnF]

Well i was up at 5.30 this morning got ready & left at 6.00 to take Cody out to meet the bus at edgeworth macas..Karen didn't think i was going to take them but i did..Back to pick him up some time after lunch about 2.30 , 3.00 this arvo..It was bloody cold in the landy this morning no heater in it..I met one of the other parents a lady she was nice can't remember her name she was the only one Karen introduced me to, spoke to a couple of other people don't know who they where but they where parents of other players (i hope)...OH did i mention how bloody cold the landy is of a morning...

What do you think a thick Eiderdown parka, or Karen is for. Keep warm

[JohnF]

Not me Mrs HH, not me!!!!:eek::angel:

Nor me :o:o:o

[JohnF]

http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/Animals/chicken-45.gif (http://freesmileyface.net/Free-Animals-Smileys.html)

yes I am, only when it comes to dealing with a moody woman, or a bigger than me guy looking for a punch-up :o

[banjo]

Ok this is where we are as of today, I took Karen to the doctors today he has taken 4 viles of blood to do tests for menapoors..He has give Karen medication as she is serveerly depressed & run down...

We have to go back on monday for the results of the blood test so we have already made the appointment for next monday....

I was talking to Jim on the phone earlier & was telling him i actualy sat in the waiting room with Karen till she went in as she didn't want me to go with her..
I even sat there the whole time she was in seeing the doc & giving blood , Probably about half an hour & it started to fill up & i just sat there till Karen came out, as soon as i seen her i was up & by her side as she was upset..
Now i haven't sat in the docs for over 20 years i usualy just stand at the door....
Proud of myself for that especialy since it started to get full....

I had to drag Karen out of bed today at lunch time & when i finaly got her in the shower i had to wash her she just stood there so down , it near killed me i tell you..

I have done this to Karen over the years .So have the kids & they have had a kick in the ass aswell....

I would be very surprised if anyone actualy knew how much Karen does for me plus running around for the kids...

Yes i have agerophobia bad but i also have OCD . . . Which hasn't helped..

I am pretty sure i have done to little to late for Karen & i realy belive that she wants it over , i will still fight to the end for her & i owe her this much to help her through this part in her life...

I am so frightend to loose her & the kids its not funny & i am so ashamed it came to this for me to move my ass & do something & i am so frightend to be on my own as the only option is my mothers oh yay . . .

[banjo]

The most important thing to me at the moment is Karens health & wellbeing....

I am at the moment in the middle of folding 5000 pamphlets while Karen is asleep on the lounge . . .

Well post up people i will be back on in a little while . . . . . .


So worried so frightend & scared to the point now i feel sick in the guts & cant sleep...

[Fifth Columnist]

Something positive....
You've just topped 50,000 viewings :eek:

[V8Ian]

Well done on the massive progress at the doctor's Jason, you've done us all proud. Looks like it's your turn to carry Karen for a while, I'm sure you will. Mate they might be hard times, but to help Karen the best you can, don't waste time worrying about mights and maybes, just get stuck into helping Karen, as she has done for you for years. If I can do anything for either of you, just holler mate.
Say hi to Karen for me. :)

[DiscoMick]

That's so good mate, think of all the positive things you've achieved. Now you have the chance to repay Karen for all the things she's done for you. How great is that!
Be positive Banjo, this is a great opportunity - go for it!

[Narangga]

Fold Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Fold Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Deliver Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Fold Pamphlets, get kids off to school, care for Karen.



Mate I think you are too busy to worry. :o

Great story about you and the doctor's. :BigThumb:

[banjo]

Well done on the massive progress at the doctor's Jason, you've done us all proud. Looks like it's your turn to carry Karen for a while, I'm sure you will. Mate they might be hard times, but to help Karen the best you can, don't waste time worrying about mights and maybes, just get stuck into helping Karen, as she has done for you for years. If I can do anything for either of you, just holler mate.
Say hi to Karen for me. :)


Hey Ian i showed Karen that email on how to calibrate your mouse she smiled....

And yes i tryed it to.....:p

[banjo]

Fold Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Fold Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Deliver Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Fold Pamphlets, get kids off to school, care for Karen.



Mate I think you are too busy to worry. :o

Great story about you and the doctor's. :BigThumb:

Thats what i have been doing the medication the doc gave her has made her sick so when she moves i jump.Its the best feeling to be finaly able to do something for her...

Damn pamphlets i still got about 2000 to go :mad::mad: . . . .

[V8Ian]

Thats what i have been doing the medication the doc gave her has made her sick so when she moves i jump.Its the best feeling to be finaly able to do something for her...

Damn pamphlets i still got about 2000 to go :mad::mad: . . . .
Karen's busted a gut for years mate, it's your turn now, I reckon you're man enough to rise to the challenge, Jason.

[Narangga]

Fold Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Fold Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Deliver Pamphlets, care for Karen.

Fold Pamphlets, get kids off to school, care for Karen.




see above ;)

PS. Hope she gets a good night's sleep and isn't kept awake by the medication.

[banjo]

I just thought of the best way to deliver the papers & pamphlets after i bag them tomorrow..I should get Aus & the limo over to drive me & i can hang out the top through the big sunroof & throw them , could get both sides of the street done at once :eek: . :cool: .:p .

[Narangga]

I just thought of the best way to deliver the papers & pamphlets after i bag them tomorrow..I should get Aus & the limo over to drive me & i can hang out the top through the big sunroof & throw them , could get both sides of the street done at once :eek: . :cool: .:p .

I'd like to see that!!! :rulez:

[V8Ian]

I just thought of the best way to deliver the papers & pamphlets after i bag them tomorrow..I should get Aus & the limo over to drive me & i can hang out the top through the big sunroof & throw them , could get both sides of the street done at once :eek: . :cool: .:p .
:rulez:

[scarry]

...tropical moment..is what it is called


Mrs hh:angel:

Ahh,is that when SHE has the A/C on flat at home,and i am freezing?
And when ever we are in the car,even in this weather the A/C is needed?
Looks like it maybe happening here as well:eek:
Never used to be like this...

Banjo,been reading the thread,but haven't said much,hope it all gets sorted.

Recon you are on the right track going for the tests.

ALWAYs look for the positives,no matter how difficult it is at times.

50,000 unbelievable....& well done:)

[V8Ian]

Ahh,is that when SHE has the A/C on flat at home,and i am freezing?
And when ever we are in the car,even in this weather the A/C is needed?
Looks like it maybe happening here as well:eek:
Never used to be like this...

Banjo,been reading the thread,but haven't said much,hope it all gets sorted.

Recon you are on the right track going for the tests.

ALWAYs look for the positives,no matter how difficult it is at times.

50,000 unbelievable....& well done:)Use the d
Disco Paul, she can have it set at her temp and you can counter it on yours. :angel:

[DiscoMick]

Just keep going for it Banjo. You're doing well, keep focussed on being positive and what you can do to improve things.

[Fifth Columnist]

Damn pamphlets i still got about 2000 to go :mad::mad: . . . .

Are you folding them for maximum delivery efficiency............













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[banjo]

Well i got about half an hour left to go on the pamphlets . Then up to pickup the papers..
Got the kids ready for school done there lunches packed way to much for them again . .
Karen is still in bed I will get her up later & take her for a drive while i get the papers maybe just to get her out .
She got to sleep about 1 this morning still felt sick from her tablets & she slep ok till about 7.30 & then got up to goto the loo & back to bed . .

I was folding pamphlets till 12 lastnight then went & just laid with karen till she went to sleep .....
Cody has footy training this arvo but i couldn't sit there once i got him there & i don't want Karen to take him so i have organised for him to get a lift this week with the coach as he lives around the corner from us & the kids will be stoping in on the there way home from school to see about him taking him for me , He plays at stockton this weekend & Karen realy wants to go as she like to watch him play all the time & its the final knockout game for them if they win they make it to the grandfinal so if she is some what better she can go if not the coach will have to take him...Thats the best i can offer at the moment unfortunatly . . .

[JohnF]

keep your chin up. In time Karen will get better if that is the correct diagnosis.

[banjo]

Well had a major achievment today, Had to do the papers well i went got them with Karen & we WALKED them yes i walked we only have our street to do now & throw the pamphlets later this arvo or tomorrow Karen said..
Went to the camping shop this morning to look at a new swag as i sold mine & i realy want to get another one before i get my marching orders which i don't think will be to much longer coming EVEN Karen is worried that her feelings will come back for this other guy & its pretty hard not to run into him down the road so she is staying as far away as posable but its hard as we are or she is always down there....
Karens feeling a little sick from her tablet now so we just resting her for a while then we are going to do the rest of the papers i was going to do them by myself but she said if i do them now she will come . . . .

I feel so bad for Karen as her head is all over the place & that i have made her have no feelings for me at all. the feeling is so bad & she has no idea what to do the same as me..

She telling me that she is going to take Cody to training so i not going to say anything just be happy for her to do it...


Karen feels i'm pushing her & i don't meen to i just like her company & i want to spend the time with her while she is like this & to top it off she feels like she is useing me because she doesn't know what the outcome will be & we mite go our own ways (GOD I HOPE NOT THAT FRIGHTENS ME SO MUCH) But i want to help her & hold her & care for her as she has for me ....

Trying to find things to do to keep my crappy mind working against me so i can give Karen time on her own don't have the shed to go & tinker in anymore, if i was able to go out more on my own i would go over to Aus's to say g'day.....

Thursday is our big shopping day this week good pay week so Karen will be down the road for quiet some time & i am worried that she will run into him & she is worried about it aswell . . .:confused::confused::confused::(:(:(..

ITS So HARD THE KIDS AREN'T SURE WHATS GOING ON .

I have to put some oil in my car as its down , will have to do those valves soon they leak the oil & sometimes off we go in a clowd of smoke....& i need to put some coolant in it as its only water at the moment. . .

If i sit around to long my head seems to do me in a lot at the moment & i wont tell Karen .....

[banjo]

I HATE MYESLF SO SO MUCH NOW FOR DOING THIS & MAKING KAREN FEEL THIS WAY . . .I HAVE KNOW IDEA AS TO WHAT TO DO ANYMORE , I JUST WANT TO SEE KAREN SMILE & HAPPY & HER BUBBLY SELF & TO BE ABLE TO JUST CHAT & LAUGH BUT EVEN SO IF THINGS WORK OUT WE BOTH KNOW ITS GOING TO BE AWKWARD BETWEEN US ABOUT HER FEELINGS...
I THINK IT WILL PASS WITH ME CAUSE IF I WIN HER BACK PROPERLY THEN THIS OTHER BLOKE WONT DO A THING WHEN KAREN IS NEAR HIM CAUSE SHE WOULD ONLY FEEL FOR ME AGAIN :confused: ?????????......






CRAP I AM SO FRIGHTEND ITS KILLING ME TO SEE KAREN LIKE THIS SHE IS SUCH A STRONG PERSON & FOR ME TO HAVE CAUSED ALL THIS & TO HER OF ALL PEOPLE IS SO WRONG...

**** I MISS HER SO MUCH IN EVERYWAY . . . . . . . . :(:(:(:(



I AM TRYING TO KEEP POSATIVE FOR BOTH OF US I REALY AM.....

[JohnF]

If Karen went with this tattoo guy, I hope she realises that he would only be hers until another girl with nice breasts comes in to get a tattoo on her breast also.

Relationships like she is dreaming of rarely last.

[d@rk51d3]

If Karen went with this tattoo guy, I hope she realises that he would only be hers until another girl with nice breasts comes in to get a tattoo on her breast also.

Relationships like she is dreaming of rarely last.

Agreed. If he's willing to dump his wife and kid now, what's he going to do in a couple of years.... Or even months?

[banjo]

If Karen went with this tattoo guy, I hope she realises that he would only be hers until another girl with nice breasts comes in to get a tattoo on her breast also.

Relationships like she is dreaming of rarely last.

He isn't interested he is married with a very sick child & he doesn't feel anything for Karen except maybe a friendship......

.:(

[banjo]

Well i haven't been back very long Karen fell asleep out the front verander so i took off & went & delivered the last of the papers on FOOT by myself ...
When i came back to get some more papers Karen was awake so she just came for a walk with me while i did the last few around the block...Just have to throw the pamphlets tomorrow morning . . .
That wont take long . . . .
I recon i'm gunna be sore soon though . . . .:( .

Done the oil in my car it was down a bit this time better check every couple of weeks i think....

[banjo]

He isn't interested he is married with a very sick child & he doesn't feel anything for Karen except maybe a friendship......

.:(

But because of these feelings for him she doesn't know if she wants to be with me anymore. . .

AND to top it off POOR Karen's head is all over the place & i cant do a thing for her about it..

Was chatting just before & even Karen is worried about running into him come thursday.....





















( SO FRIGHTEND OF LOOSING HER & THE KIDS) :BigCry::BigCry::BigCry:

[banjo]

Karen cant even explain the feelings ...She was so run down by me & the kids, moreso me & she was ( is ) so tiered & doesn't know if its worth fighting for anymore & she said she doesn't think she could pull herself out of it again if it did happen again, The worst part is we both know i will slip again & have a bad day or so But i have promised that it wont get to as bad as it was. A week at the most & i will be kicking myself up the head to get moving PLUS ALL USE GUYS & LADY Mrs HH CAN THUMP ME TILL I DO DO SOMETHING & GET OFF MY ASS,That when i have asked she cant realy answer me ..
She said they clicked & he was nice to her & complamenty to her & flirty ....
She just wanted him in the sence that he was normal with no problem like mine & the normality that he would have to offer .She said that she never had any sexual feelings for him at all she told me..

[banjo]

I realy need Karen to post as i can't say it very well . . . . :( . . . .

[Ausfree]

Hey banj, got the ISP catalogue and I saw the pump you are referring too, I think for $15 I will give it a try!!!!:)

[banjo]

Hey Aus can you send me an email so i can save your address.Plus i got an email from Ian to forward on to you....

[Grockle]

thanks for e-mail Jas,did you try it then ?;)

[banjo]

thanks for e-mail Jas,did you try it then ?;)

Sure did :p

[banjo]

OK this is what Karen meens by normality they came home from footy training & was telling me that on the 28th wether they make the grandfinal or not they are puting on a BBQ for tea at one of the parents houses ..Now i know i cant do that
1 its at killingworth

2 i don't know these people from a bar of soap

3 only one of them knows i have a problem


See what i meen i can't offer Karen any full normality at all, that is what she wants & its also what she needs..
Karen is sick of going to things on her own she feels like a single mum all the time..

I think that will be the final nail in my coffin....

[V8Ian]

Suckers. :p

[Ausfree]

Hey Aus can you send me an email so i can save your address.Plus i got an email from Ian to forward on to you.... Banj, I think I am having some computer problems sending EMails, it looks like I am receiving but not sending, I will send you a test message now and if you receive nothing let me know ( hmm, that is a bit of an oxymoron)!!!:confused::)